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From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
To: Tino Calancha <tino.calancha@gmail.com>
Cc: 26338@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net,
	Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>, Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Subject: bug#26338: 26.0.50; Collect all matches for REGEXP in current buffer
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2017 14:41:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAArVCkQpD4YQwpb8e0yDEEjFqYdt9WWKcgVAdXwxeLjqbWCWXg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1704082231001.16237@calancha-pc>

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Tino Calancha <tino.calancha@gmail.com> schrieb am Sa., 8. Apr. 2017 um
15:42 Uhr:

>
>
> On Sat, 8 Apr 2017, Philipp Stephani wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Tino Calancha <tino.calancha@gmail.com> schrieb am Sa., 8. Apr. 2017 um
> 06:46 Uhr:
> >
> >
> >       On Fri, 7 Apr 2017, Drew Adams wrote:
> >
> >       >>> Or an addition to cl-loop that would allow doing something like
> >       >>>
> >       >>>    (cl-loop for m being the matches of "foo\\|bar"
> >       >>>             do ...)
> >       >>>
> >       >>> Then you could easily 'collect m' to get the list of matches
> if you want
> >       >>> that.
> >       >>
> >       >> Your proposals looks nice to me ;-)
> >       >
> >       > (Caveat: I have not been following this thread.)
> >       >
> >       > I think that `cl-loop' should be as close to Common Lisp `loop'
> >       > as we can reasonably make it.  We should _not_ be adding other
> >       > features to it or changing its behavior away from what it is
> >       > supposedly emulating.
> >       >
> >       > If you want, create a _different_ macro that is Emacs-specific,
> >       > with whatever behavior you want.  Call it whatever you want
> >       > that will not be confused with Common Lisp emulation.
> >       >
> >       > Please keep `cl-' for Common Lisp emulation.  We've already
> >       > seen more than enough tampering with this - people adding
> >       > their favorite thing to the `cl-' namespace.  Not good.
> >       Drew, i respect your opinion; but so far the change
> >       would just extend `cl-loop' which as you noticed has being already
> >       extended before.
> >       For instance, we have:
> >       cl-loop for x being the overlays/buffers ...
> >
> >       Don't see a problem to have those things.
> >
> >
> > I do. They couple the idea of an iterable with a looping construct, and
> such coupling is bad for various reasons:
> > - Coupling of unrelated entities is always an antipattern.
> > - For N iterables and M looping constructs, you need to implement N*M
> integrations.
> > Instead this should use an iterable, e.g. a generator function
> (iter-defun). cl-loop supports these out of the box.
> Then, you don't like (as Drew, but for different reasons) that we have:
> cl-loop for x being the buffers ...
>

I don't like it, but it's there and cannot be removed for compatibility
reasons, so I'm not arguing about it. I'm arguing against adding more such
one-off forms.


>
> but it seems you are fine having iter-by clause in cl-loop, which seems an
> Emacs extension (correctme if i am wrong).  So in principle, you are happy
> with adding useful extensions to CL, not just keep it an emulation as
> Drew wants.
>

Yes, I don't care about Common Lisp. The iter-by clause is less of a
problem than 'buffers' etc. because it's not a one-off that couples a
looping construct with some random semantics.


>
> Your point is about performance.


No, I care mostly about clarity, simplicity, and good API design, including
separation of concerns.


>   I am driven by easy to write code.
> Maybe you can provide an example about how to write those things using
> the iter-by cl-loop clause.


Sure:
 (require 'generator)
(iter-defun re-matches (regexp)
  (while (re-search-forward regexp nil t)
    (iter-yield (match-string 0))))
(iter-do (m (re-matches (rx digit)))
  (print m))
(cl-loop for m iter-by (re-matches (rx digit))
do (print m))

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-08 14:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-02 12:41 bug#26338: 26.0.50; Collect all matches for REGEXP in current buffer Tino Calancha
2017-04-02 15:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-04-03  3:58   ` Tino Calancha
2017-04-02 22:10 ` Juri Linkov
2017-04-03  4:01   ` Tino Calancha
2017-04-03  6:13   ` Tino Calancha
2017-04-03 23:35     ` Juri Linkov
2017-04-04  1:37       ` Tino Calancha
2017-04-04  2:20         ` Tino Calancha
2017-04-04 14:32         ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-04-05 11:58           ` Tino Calancha
2017-04-05 13:11             ` npostavs
2017-04-07 10:06               ` Tino Calancha
2017-04-07 14:40                 ` Drew Adams
2017-04-08  4:45                   ` Tino Calancha
2017-04-08  5:49                     ` Drew Adams
2017-04-08 15:29                       ` Tino Calancha
2017-04-08 15:42                         ` Drew Adams
2017-04-08 11:46                     ` Philipp Stephani
2017-04-08 13:42                       ` Tino Calancha
2017-04-08 14:41                         ` Philipp Stephani [this message]
2017-04-08 15:20                           ` Tino Calancha
2017-04-22 19:42                             ` Philipp Stephani
2017-04-08 15:38                           ` npostavs
2017-04-22 19:36                             ` Philipp Stephani
2017-04-05 22:03             ` Juri Linkov
2017-04-07 14:47               ` Tino Calancha
2017-04-07 15:28                 ` Noam Postavsky
2017-04-07 15:54                   ` Drew Adams
2017-04-08 13:49                   ` Tino Calancha
2020-09-15 15:41 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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