From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14661: 24.3.50; `C-' is seen as `C-' Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:44:00 +0200 Message-ID: References: <5f79449d-3811-463f-88db-377fee797807@default> <83bo72qidw.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1371653112 7110 80.91.229.3 (19 Jun 2013 14:45:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 14:45:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 14661@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 19 16:45:13 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UpJdI-0004Eo-Mz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:45:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55341 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UpJdI-0008Rb-3s for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:45:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50501) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UpJdB-0008HC-SV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:45:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UpJdA-0002yt-K4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:45:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:33228) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UpJdA-0002yc-Ga for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:45:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UpJd9-0008Fy-LM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:45:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juanma Barranquero Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 14:45:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14661 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14661-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14661.137165308831682 (code B ref 14661); Wed, 19 Jun 2013 14:45:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14661) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jun 2013 14:44:48 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55776 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UpJct-0008Eu-Me for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:44:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ea0-f174.google.com ([209.85.215.174]:58214) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UpJcs-0008Ec-0E for 14661@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:44:46 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ea0-f174.google.com with SMTP id o10so3218149eaj.19 for <14661@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:44:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jnmlO6JeGReKHPS+az38yR0jhRmT9J7YmCUklFccVpw=; b=APIvaNpB1C9BxvNVAEEfmS+KLXgJsVFvMD0pNdC3AiwaQpR77WzktVp8sbTFeyhMHx 6+gAhPLECa1Oos+SPPuXAtd1qpZ0mKB3cylqo1qb0lajWAwH6U30mffHblLWIRCAiKBZ L9er6amHIbiBaG5BxnXZck9v6COxnkck5dB5LveEUNcwoty3YzJhduHjaEwxut7EFZsX Kp7+LN+qwbIw6F6G78VCnRmwcbIKZWFgiHQ67ONxxFQFijxbZqP0szHcQEQ3GWzvZWOk yi/M5YO7G0WkJCvlQJkv52II4CnX/Jxt/tFNwyMYVyuXa3NKMP0clknIEtZyB3jO6dRf h9Ig== X-Received: by 10.14.38.198 with SMTP id a46mr2982331eeb.42.1371653080212; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.14.142.4 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:44:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83bo72qidw.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:75341 Archived-At: On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > This is a conundrum whose way out I don't know, nor whether it at all > exists. Windows gives us the same virtual key code VK_CANCEL for both > C- and C- (for reasons of backward compatibility). According to this: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2008/02/11/7596539.aspx there's no way to fix it: =C2=ABEven though the enhanced keyboard moved the Pause and Break functions to their own key, pressing the Pause key internally generated scan codes that simulated a press of Ctrl+NumLock. In other words, when you pressed Pause, the keyboard hardware actually tells the computer, "The user pressed the Ctrl key and then pressed the NumLock key." Similarly, when you pressed Ctrl+Break, the keyboard hardware tells the computer, "The user pressed the Ctrl key and then pressed the ScrollLock key." Therefore, Ctrl+ScrollLock acts like Ctrl+Break because at the hardware level, they are the same thing. That the two functions exist on separate keys is just a fake-out by the keyboard hardware.=C2=BB