From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13052: 24.3.50; mention recent change of `kbd' to a function in NEWS Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 03:26:45 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4A0D4F56F5644FECA0E1476F42EA84E8@us.oracle.com> <8B94F420D989475D8089DCF31ECF8EAC@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1354415276 18729 80.91.229.3 (2 Dec 2012 02:27:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 02:27:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13052@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 02 03:28:07 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TezHo-0007KC-0q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 03:28:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53268 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TezHc-0008Qg-4J for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 21:27:52 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36285) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TezHa-0008Qb-Am for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 21:27:51 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TezHZ-0007aI-AW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 21:27:50 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:38742) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TezHZ-0007aE-4K for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 21:27:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TezJi-0005qQ-Sl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 21:30:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juanma Barranquero Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2012 02:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13052 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13052-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13052.135441538322393 (code B ref 13052); Sun, 02 Dec 2012 02:30:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13052) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Dec 2012 02:29:43 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48993 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TezJO-0005p7-Qg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 21:29:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ea0-f172.google.com ([209.85.215.172]:39427) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TezJM-0005oz-8n for 13052@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 21:29:42 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ea0-f172.google.com with SMTP id a1so766061eaa.3 for <13052@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 18:27:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=vNRM6YgkbkOGU5uC04+7ck40raj5yYGgRIIzGqZt62E=; b=vaEdCrBdzqLBnDF3eieUdcN76PNJfD53EUGjuozKGUbkN1Ra0FdHZa9S8dKepHznFq nHAWvx96rHdyjBDCrx8NAUq4aJzVwtB46msGSwH1K/6dxi8U0s2vgMTB1IkQGlAIqpjT 7XWP5cJk1FNm0nrC6/xRkDPon6lLmrOgR6wWv9qwfp6Y73fw2bS/tbOaxsqN1UYbd1Ne eVaZa4UIe3/6GZlfiiQLtuxXGpoUAO5X860b1rHPSzXojeNehhobxj6FyYpjVi0PxoHE oHcpv0VC/ucT3LUz5KOxB+x/Tzvdl0skrpm9qoIrP8YqjMWej4qIkZLydMXBhmb9Kyc0 2WzQ== Original-Received: by 10.14.225.72 with SMTP id y48mr21130804eep.46.1354415245553; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 18:27:25 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.223.4.209 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Dec 2012 18:26:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8B94F420D989475D8089DCF31ECF8EAC@us.oracle.com> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:67757 Archived-At: On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 3:18 AM, Drew Adams wrote: > Thanks. So I guess that means that if I have a similar (e.g., identical, for > discussion) function and I put property `pure' on it then I will get the same > optimization? I think so, though I haven't really looked that much at byte-opt's code. > What happens if someone erroneously adds that property to a function that is not > pure but whose args all satisfy `macroexp-const-p'? Do you just lose the > optimization or could something much worse happen? I suppose (but again, I haven't studied the code) that some calls to that function would likely be optimized away, which would cause erroneous execution in case the function really does have side effects. > In any case, this property should be documented. Not surprisingly, I disagree. I don't think it is intended to be used by third-party packages. Documenting it is asking for trouble. Juanma