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From: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 15117@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Subject: bug#15117: 24.3.50; doc of `(forward|backward)-*': state return value
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 02:28:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAeL0SRYdnYryaVzADc5L61vgM0EPQeBzG2h327YynitS18tXA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2fefcbaf-9417-4f57-93af-490ea73aea98@default>

On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:

> Motion functions are not what is typically meant by a side-effect
> function.

Why not? Functions intended to move the point are as prototypically
side-effect functions as you can get. That goto-char returns POSITION
is a moderately useful, but not-at-all necessary commodity. goto-char
moving the point as a side effect is its whole raison d'être.

> They do not change the contents of the buffer, for
> example, in the sense of `buffer-modified-p'.

Why would you restrict the definition of "side effects" to changing
the buffer? `recenter' has no documented return value, and does not
modify the buffer. Would you deny that it exists to recenter as a side
effect?

    J





  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-02-11  1:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-17 15:59 bug#15117: 24.3.50; doc of `(forward|backward)-*': state return value Drew Adams
2014-02-08  5:08 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2014-02-10  0:12   ` Drew Adams
2014-02-10  2:39     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2014-02-10  2:45       ` Drew Adams
2014-02-10 16:27     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-02-10 21:16       ` Drew Adams
2014-02-11  1:07         ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-02-11  6:40           ` Drew Adams
2014-02-11  1:28         ` Juanma Barranquero [this message]
2014-02-11  6:43           ` Drew Adams
2014-02-11 16:31             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-02-11 17:29               ` Drew Adams
2014-02-11 18:05                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-02-11 18:42                 ` Andreas Röhler
2014-02-11 18:58                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-02-11 19:13                     ` Drew Adams
2014-02-11 19:26                     ` Andreas Röhler
2014-02-11 17:36             ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-02-11  2:52         ` Glenn Morris
2014-02-11  4:01         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-02-11 10:52           ` Andreas Röhler
2014-02-11 11:16             ` Nicolas Richard
2014-02-11 12:10               ` Andreas Röhler
     [not found] <<1dc76f7a-5481-41df-b976-ec22229d7283@default>
     [not found] ` <<874n4a42f0.fsf@building.gnus.org>
     [not found]   ` <<1281d0fd-77cb-45e2-b99d-f4ad24b0fc4e@default>
     [not found]     ` <<jwvr47b3pcw.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <<2fefcbaf-9417-4f57-93af-490ea73aea98@default>
     [not found]         ` <<CAAeL0SRYdnYryaVzADc5L61vgM0EPQeBzG2h327YynitS18tXA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]           ` <<68a64949-d801-4d09-8dc8-4b6ae0824855@default>
     [not found]             ` <<8361oltxu1.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]               ` <<67b917ca-8b69-49fd-9e12-68da310f7567@default>
     [not found]                 ` <<8338jpttic.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-02-11 18:14                   ` Drew Adams
2014-02-11 18:17                     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                   ` <<5889df4e-4343-4136-ae49-4062659da625@default>
     [not found]                     ` <<831tz9tsy2.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-02-11 18:26                       ` Drew Adams

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