From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7741: 23.2.91; Please allow emacs to run emacsclient Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 19:32:09 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87r5d3z8wy.fsf@sc3d.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1309801169 16760 80.91.229.12 (4 Jul 2011 17:39:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 17:39:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 7741@debbugs.gnu.org To: Reuben Thomas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 04 19:39:25 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qdn7F-0004CA-2E for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 19:39:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57604 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qdn7D-0002pK-Sz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 13:39:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:60965) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qdn17-0001XW-K8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 13:33:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qdn15-0004Lo-8G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 13:33:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:47755) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qdn14-0004Ld-Ta for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 13:33:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qdn13-0007z2-UQ; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 13:33:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juanma Barranquero Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 17:33:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7741 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 7741-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7741.130980077930679 (code B ref 7741); Mon, 04 Jul 2011 17:33:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7741) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jul 2011 17:32:59 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qdn10-0007ym-MR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 13:32:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pv0-f172.google.com ([74.125.83.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qdn0y-0007yX-T1 for 7741@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 13:32:57 -0400 Original-Received: by pvh18 with SMTP id 18so5060061pvh.3 for <7741@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 10:32:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sgCa4qv63izmXPxGBXL5lJpB6/b6Pjl/5RCVFCAEi7I=; b=GOz6tXvoMzPweOmtSeEuSJ5j9g1e/2/QoarWnAP0g0IDDLj0BohWx91PIjl+QbPwe0 j0ZCwSmuOuRGGy9h6CRuEHV9unSbT9J4Vd+wuS8O1qw+C3qmEx5v/wIX9EuSHhRNd4Dh a91qUeka1HJc24K+9vkzWijibHYXCknAxEkAI= Original-Received: by 10.142.215.15 with SMTP id n15mr588062wfg.107.1309800769148; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 10:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.142.48.6 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 10:32:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 13:33:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:47966 Archived-At: On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 18:23, Reuben Thomas wrote: > it seems worth > pursuing making things simpler. Here, I'm after a solution that means > that one can set EDITOR=3Demacs, and it will just DTRT, i.e. start Emacs > if not already started, or use emacsclient otherwise. Simpler than using emacsclient -a "" or the emacs daemon? > All the required behavior already exists, but it's still necessary to > use emacsclient and set up some environment variables to make it all > work; it should be possible to do pretty much everything out of the > box, which would give users who don't have the time or expertise to > set everything up access to the same convenience and functionality. But what you're talking aboutis saving a few keystrokes once... It is possible to use Emacs out of the box, but even users without time or expertise will have to set up more than that to make effective use of Emacs, I think. Doesn't seem worth the trouble to me, but that's just MHO. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Juanma