From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14734: 24.3.50; REGRESSION: defadvice broken wrt doc strings (C-h f) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 22:29:13 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87ppv550s6.fsf@web.de> <309ce668-1d40-4865-b796-d6828f65a8d4@default> <49fae9c3-c59c-4b08-84f0-24dc9935b345@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1372537874 22748 80.91.229.3 (29 Jun 2013 20:31:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 20:31:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Michael Heerdegen , 14734@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 29 22:31:12 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ut1nb-0005fU-K9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 22:31:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41141 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ut1nb-0007HQ-1n for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:31:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54115) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ut1nT-0007C6-Qo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:31:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ut1nS-00073e-N9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:31:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:54214) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ut1nS-00073L-Ep for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:31:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ut1nR-0003xJ-Mo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:31:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juanma Barranquero Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 20:31:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14734 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 14734-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14734.137253780315069 (code B ref 14734); Sat, 29 Jun 2013 20:31:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14734) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jun 2013 20:30:03 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48529 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ut1mT-0003ud-OF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:30:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-f180.google.com ([209.85.212.180]:52212) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ut1mR-0003u2-6F for 14734@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:29:59 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wi0-f180.google.com with SMTP id c10so1916057wiw.7 for <14734@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 13:29:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=6zH56EOxT2hxDALfruB4AsGICP0Cxb8HrYE66A+WVKM=; b=occG4geweEVsXAK90ilWzpU6t5py3VLn4+t59pdsSvyyHi7vnxnZOF8LwjVQ7n/eF2 IBmOwkd38TolB7+BwTau6cFWZSjFTMk5xV/0+uAUbnUGY3MpTJM+92k+Nj8Uy8Ojw9EO M49lYQINs3OqPehP7OsqmYFMx5DJDDjxi7OjYO3trtN32a+CkfOz9Ga4+V08EuawpgZp cXD6dDAhGruPmDpArNFPTPQabYsVAGDCtaGXNjap1o9DCX18OSlNoT8NzTOSPViIiBYr qQe3nxwd2zaXpSdEvRBXfrygjlxYZmgzko/hD0fpEOkxEJbc6T649R+sOr7dyQxa/8+G 1P3Q== X-Received: by 10.194.20.97 with SMTP id m1mr15291158wje.31.1372537793448; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 13:29:53 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.14.142.4 with HTTP; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 13:29:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:75723 Archived-At: On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > The old advice.el could be reimplemented to use nadvice more directly > (e.g. so that each defadvice turns into a single advice-add, rather > than bundling all defadvice into a single advice-add), which would solve > some of your complaints, but it's a lot of work and would probably break > more backward compatibility because it'd be difficult to preserve some > details of advice.el's semantics. FWIW, I like a lot the new advice system and I understand why does not make sense to spend much time with the old advices (I'm quite happy to see the end of ad-do-it and other clumsy macros). But I also agree with Drew that the current doctrings for adviced functions are horrible and a big step backwards for users. J