From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17046: 24.3.50; On startup emacs frame has no minibuffer or windows decorations Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:24:30 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87bnx1me40.fsf@capuchin.co.uk> <532DAA47.5020101@gmx.at> <532DAD2D.9050508@gmx.at> <21293.47677.273344.433965@capuchin.co.uk> <532DD9C8.2090209@gmx.at> <532DE5C8.3070308@gmx.at> <21293.61407.237813.539443@capuchin.co.uk> <532E022A.1010401@gmx.at> <21294.2992.133359.234317@capuchin.co.uk> <532EB366.8070801@gmx.at> <21294.49676.124258.183227@capuchin.co.uk> <532EC7F7.2060307@gmx.at> <21294.58410.934138.908538@capuchin.co.uk> <532EE6F9.50003@gmx.at> <21294.61472.376055.235383@capuchin.co.uk> <532EF5F3.5040706@gmx.at> <21294.64295.631988.273738@capuchin.co.uk> <532EFDB1.9020902@gmx.at> <21295.1905.505188.563594@capuchin.co.uk> <532F10C7.6030801@gmx.at> <21295.5581.394024.241655@capuchin.co.uk> <532F19C0.4020902@gmx.at> <21295.7482.513409.93351@capuchin.co.uk> <21295.14057.185786.863083@capuchin.co.uk> <21295.21403.534064.434296@capuchin.co.uk> <21295.59468.82731.2394@capuchin.co.uk> <21296.7931.103056.823206@capuchin.co.uk> <21296.12737.48072.487144@capuchin.co.uk> <21296.19864.25566.342047@capuchin.co.uk> <21296.22701.448897.930196@capuchin.co.uk> <21296.26536.10078.165484@capuchin.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; 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Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.170.163.3 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:24:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <21296.26536.10078.165484@capuchin.co.uk> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:87324 Archived-At: Interesting. There aren't that many differences between the frames. The possibly significant ones: (environment) (height . 36) (horizontall-scroll-bars . t) (left . 896) (window-system . x) vs. (height . 30) (left . 0) So I'd suggest adding them (the ones in the first group) one by one to your bug17046.el, and repeat the tests. Comment out the `let' from the previous message, there's no need to report the frame parameters now, just whether some case fails / works when previously it would've worked / failed instead. Let's hope we find something that can explain the different behavior.