From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Artur Malabarba Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21140: 25.0.50; Isearch "char-fold" by default Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:24:52 +0100 Message-ID: References: <86vbd5n27r.fsf@example.com> Reply-To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3a8d0ef0c851051bdc1de4 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1438007144 17023 80.91.229.3 (27 Jul 2015 14:25:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 14:25:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 21140@debbugs.gnu.org To: Sebastien Vauban Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 27 16:25:33 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJjL5-0005VR-E9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 16:25:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53891 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJjL4-0002PP-LX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 10:25:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45884) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJjL1-0002Lm-0k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 10:25:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJjKx-0006WD-01 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 10:25:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:58857) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJjKw-0006W5-Sj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 10:25:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJjKw-00061T-HV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 10:25:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Artur Malabarba Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 14:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21140 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21140-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21140.143800709623137 (code B ref 21140); Mon, 27 Jul 2015 14:25:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21140) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2015 14:24:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60303 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJjKp-000616-QG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 10:24:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-la0-f53.google.com ([209.85.215.53]:35958) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJjKn-00060w-L3 for 21140@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 10:24:54 -0400 Original-Received: by lagw2 with SMTP id w2so50065547lag.3 for <21140@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 07:24:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ykuGsUgILiIb8PSclEqs820M8R6WrpEKEm5gY3gXkyg=; b=Chmn3IZ9ZchHKffA4PasrseOLCMkIW/ra/H/NIDObgKuWhWDM5FeeH1XS4gLlRmNBE mJBem1T87iLW1WGI6+Aub8cELHGy3idIG2nWWtFX8SdXoZh7KR13bWnxSCAfUwZX4CCC bZKwdfXcaVKO1zr5ItCBxbqWql4Z61XITMcwxU7LUHB00e5IqdqQoyQg+yHQEn5dxl6A Ei9rSA6qh6EA75iTGr5Db/Petwr+e0titH+AIBd9HFDXtugPL/LeadBrShvjA5y5Q1xh E4LurIWweAhOxRzK9zvA2AHIwG3rV3tQcHiGOJ/T0CgkFz6fYQazPsySbPP90k3icVM3 XdIw== X-Received: by 10.112.145.169 with SMTP id sv9mr13912149lbb.73.1438007092625; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 07:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.25.134.139 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 07:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.25.134.139 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 07:24:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86vbd5n27r.fsf@example.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9lAuraKVSHEmYgANJOf49-L1iCY X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:105157 Archived-At: --047d7b3a8d0ef0c851051bdc1de4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > First, the default behavior seems changed, and I'm not really aware > (yet) of what exactly "char folding" is. I did not found any definition > for this, even if I have some ideas. There's another thread here about hiding that string from the prompt. I agree it's a little confusing, and char folding can be used without flashing it on the user. Somebody offered to do something about it, though I forget who. > Second, I don't think the new default is right. I prefer to search for > text, not for regexps by default. Otherwise, we could also invert `C-s' > and `C-M-s', right? Char fold search is a text search, not a regexp search. It does use a regexp underneath, but that should be invisible to the user. You type some text and it matches that text or similar texts. > Finally, it *seems* buggy to me when using `C-w' to complete the search > pattern (or shouldn't we use that anymore?). I can't see your link on my phone, but if it's like you describe then it's certainly a bug. I'll try out your examples when I get home. --047d7b3a8d0ef0c851051bdc1de4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> First, the default behavior seems changed, and I'm = not really aware
> (yet) of what exactly "char folding" is.=C2=A0 I did not fou= nd any definition
> for this, even if I have some ideas.

There's another thread here about hiding that string fro= m the prompt. I agree it's a little confusing, and char folding can be = used without flashing it on the user. Somebody offered to do something abou= t it, though I forget who.

> Second, I don't think the new default is right.=C2= =A0 I prefer to search for
> text, not for regexps by default.=C2=A0 Otherwise, we could also inver= t `C-s'
> and `C-M-s', right?

Char fold search is a text search, not a regexp search. It d= oes use a regexp underneath, but that should be invisible to the user. You = type some text and it matches that text or similar texts.

> Finally, it *seems* buggy to me when using `C-w' to= complete the search
> pattern (or shouldn't we use that anymore?).

I can't see your link on my phone, but if it's like = you describe then it's certainly a bug.
I'll try out your examples when I get home.

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