From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Artur Malabarba Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21138: 24.5; package system not initializing Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:02:59 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87d1zdzvml.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1437998669 4689 80.91.229.3 (27 Jul 2015 12:04:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 12:04:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 21138@debbugs.gnu.org To: Alexis Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 27 14:04:21 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJh8e-0007SE-Dr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 14:04:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53104 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJh8d-0005y5-Rv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 08:04:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56269) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJh8Y-0005st-64 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 08:04:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJh8U-0006Se-TW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 08:04:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:58277) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJh8U-0006SR-QE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 08:04:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJh8U-00014r-DB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 08:04:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Artur Malabarba Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 12:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21138 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 21138-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21138.14379985824069 (code B ref 21138); Mon, 27 Jul 2015 12:04:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21138) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2015 12:03:02 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59723 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJh7W-00013T-6n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 08:03:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lb0-f176.google.com ([209.85.217.176]:34974) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJh7U-00013F-8v for 21138@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 08:03:00 -0400 Original-Received: by lblf12 with SMTP id f12so51792898lbl.2 for <21138@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 05:02:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=1KSKhMaH5YfyN8VHY45fvejgcbDCS7Af9/3+FuArMWk=; b=BQ4ppMqhOTCklIsYCAAjVuIMSw8v6ZoxkjF0z1T5ujbc59UcOLKLWRRHcGdk7xH6ax pmfcgQsY1f8o3NixyMXKw88a8gOcG5Vji4rUbaLsIBj6b47jN+10/rTF/sPsYcK/LdBr OtRGQemdn0JLpJb8C/viQBV3qamZfAUIOLogmLsWx8otZix3hC8cgMPdvat0RkyRVvbM C4HCX21nlWTwlvGWpC6APPAb89Kzx+gAfUaJXs0VlCdK2fhlTuBZXluo6CyBJ7WcgLPX tWiU+AmWcuozE37kR3QQ0ZWgWXjw9s81bdRGd2LaAsUOcCDq0iITPsDUwI/kkj93On3U 3J0A== X-Received: by 10.152.44.230 with SMTP id h6mr26567662lam.21.1437998579432; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 05:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.25.134.139 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 05:02:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87d1zdzvml.fsf@gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: iQc0dw7A5oRJ5xkEPXg8r6aNoKc X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:105152 Archived-At: > i'm on 24.5.2 (manually compiled on Debian Jessie x86_64), and when i > comment out `package-initialize' from my init.el and start a non-daemonised > instance of Emacs, startup doesn't fully complete due to `package-archives' > being a void variable on which my config tries to use `add-to-list'. Then, > commenting out such lines, i get errors on calls to things like `emms-all' - > i have emms-20150519.736 installed from MELPA. After startup completes, > `package--initialized' and `package-enable-at-startup' are both set to `t'. That's all expected. ;-) In 24.5, by default, package-initialize is called at the *end* of initialization. So packages have not yet been activated while your init file is being loaded.