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From: Artur Malabarba <bruce.connor.am@gmail.com>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: 19390@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#19390: 25.0.50; `package-activate' is too slow
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 20:00:00 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAdUY-+sNuVMxUBQSQhjV5Pd3ML3BCzL3TFA7PakTLXcgj0DUw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86y4q7r0x5.fsf@yandex.ru>

2014-12-16 14:53 GMT-02:00 Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>:
> That aside, it's too bad not the whole of discussion leading to this
> implementation is public.

The discussion started here:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2014-10/msg00567.html
Oddly enough, I can't find the end of it. =/
I'll be glad to explain any of the considerations.

> Have the following alternative implementation options been considered?
> Since we only actually want to reload when upgrading, or reinstalling
> packages, maybe some key logic can move into `package-delete'.

Besides the points I mention below, there's one edge case where this
could be a problem. Built-in packages can be upgraded too, and they
can't be deleted.

> For instance:
>
> 1. Instead of scanning through the whole load-history when activating a
> package, we could have a list of paths that belonged to packages that we
> uninstalled during the current session. It would be collected in
> `package-delete', and it would certainly be empty at startup.

The way it's done right now, package-delete is called after
package-install during upgrades, so that would need to change in order
for this implementation to work.
I would rather ask on the devel-list before making a change like this
(I don't know if there's a particular reason behind the original
choice), but other than that, that sounds like a good solution.

> 2. Instead of saving paths, remove elements from the `features' list
> when a package is deleted. Then when a dependency of this package is
> installed (or even autoloaded [0]), it would load the new files, because
> they're not in features.

Again, this relies on us deleting before installing, but I prefer you
first idea. Removing elements from `features' could have unintended
consequences. We're pretending the package isn't loaded even though it
is (all its functions and variables are bound).

>
> [0] IIUC, the current approach doesn't cover this situation.

The current approach does cover autoloads. The autoloads file of a
package is always `load'ed when a package is activated (which always
happens when a package is installed, even after an upgrade). Calling
`load' on a file which contains a new definition for an already
defined autoload (which is what happens on upgrades) redefines the
autoload to the new definition.





  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-16 22:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-15 17:34 bug#19390: 25.0.50; `package-activate' is too slow Dmitry Gutov
     [not found] ` <handler.19390.B.14186649209005.ack@debbugs.gnu.org>
2014-12-16  0:41   ` bug#19390: Acknowledgement (25.0.50; `package-activate' is too slow) Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-16 12:32 ` bug#19390: 25.0.50; `package-activate' is too slow Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-16 13:26   ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-16 13:42     ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-16 14:31       ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-16 21:35         ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-16 23:16           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-16 23:27             ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-16 23:55               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-17  0:40                 ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-17  1:17                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-17 14:33                     ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-17  2:41                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-17 10:47                     ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-18  0:14                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-18  1:38                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-18  2:11                           ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-18 10:37                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-18 14:30                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-18 14:47                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-18 15:39                                   ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-18 15:47                                     ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-18 16:15                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-18 17:50                                         ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-18 17:54                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-18 18:40                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-18 19:13                                               ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-19  4:31                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-19 12:08                                                   ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-18 18:37                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-18 15:49                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-18 16:45                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-18 16:14                                   ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-18 15:15                               ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-18 15:45                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-18 17:39                                   ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-18 17:52                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-18 19:01                                       ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-18 19:49                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-18 18:42                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-18 18:45                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-16 16:53       ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-16 22:00         ` Artur Malabarba [this message]
2014-12-17  1:05           ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-16 23:19         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-16 23:40           ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-16 23:56             ` Stefan Monnier

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