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[71.174.239.102]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r1-20020a05620a298100b006a6d74f8fc9sm18054871qkp.127.2022.06.22.12.29.06 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Jun 2022 12:29:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86a6a4eejz.fsf@mail.linkov.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.100.31) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:235049 Archived-At: On Jun 22, 2022, at 2:30 PM, Juri Linkov wrote: >=20 >> I'd kinda like to inhibit stdout and leave stderr, to put it in those = terms. >> IMHO the above seems like unnecessary information. Yes >> it's specific, but it's also of little use. I enabled repeat-mode, I = expect >> it to be enabled, I don't really care that 23 commands and 9 keymaps >> were affected vs some other number of commands; and I don't need >> help like "see describe-repeat-maps" every time I enable it. >=20 > Then what do you think about doing what all minor modes do, i.e. to > display these messages conditionally on (called-interactively-p 'any). I think that would be fine, but I don't think "that" is what all minor = modes do. They do that for an enabled/disabled message via define-minor-mode, which I think is certainly useful and correct. They don't typically = provide such statistics at all. Howard=