From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Guath Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17685: 24.3.91.1; help-C-file-name failes to create temp buffer " *DOC*" Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 10:35:50 +0200 Message-ID: References: <632050FA-D476-417C-8956-3C9A8508164F@automata.se> <539020EA.6080307@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.2\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1401957385 5785 80.91.229.3 (5 Jun 2014 08:36:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 08:36:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 17685@debbugs.gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 05 10:36:18 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WsT9l-0001GS-FW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 10:36:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39118 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WsT9k-0007Hk-PX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 04:36:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47602) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WsT9c-0007Fh-83 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 04:36:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WsT9W-0004x5-Ag for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 04:36:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:45845) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WsT9W-0004x1-7N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 04:36:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WsT9V-0001gD-Ti for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 04:36:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Guath Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 08:36:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17685 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 17685-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17685.14019573606448 (code B ref 17685); Thu, 05 Jun 2014 08:36:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 17685) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jun 2014 08:36:00 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44722 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WsT9U-0001fw-2c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 04:36:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com ([74.125.82.50]:65337) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WsT9R-0001fX-HL for 17685@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 04:35:58 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id x12so694178wgg.9 for <17685@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 01:35:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=JSGO1oVVs5RHwCrf//2QOEy6sPKn5ALtcbHL+pr1uBQ=; b=RnZAzTXXDrvtnxpwdvXigrGQzCbWgmfbD9WOC7qtr6XoLf5r5T9+mPUvkWPsOXuWfu 7qwp1QIRmMf6Lk25nfoSJZPScVqt96G0LHQLot7P2ckTjvKWBQDuLg4sVmJaNOYrLJGu GYCY99n0K71wFZWkuOUoworwfky1wHQw1Ezo4N2D4Pajk/T+glZ3jfiILhSfNi/L+eKu 6vvL87gjZtI+ZnV1X6ho9H6ZIJgzpc7HdlRXVyd7Cwh3yhrOHFECEvIAYs+/N1XjJhz8 QhsnQRAnmq0rTQ3RBe2cubvJ487VZFBN4YiGOo3b98HL0b/fy1lKPodW1rLeuiA1sU7e Yi9Q== X-Received: by 10.180.12.238 with SMTP id b14mr13709155wic.16.1401957351524; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 01:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [10.157.59.192] ([64.208.157.250]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f17sm7091999wjr.19.2014.06.05.01.35.50 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 05 Jun 2014 01:35:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <539020EA.6080307@gmx.at> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.2) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:90031 Archived-At: But would such a solution really fix the problem when calling = find-lisp-object-file-name programmatically? E.g. (simplifed version = just to illustrate the concept): (defun show-elisp-src-at-point () (interactive) (message (find-lisp-object-file-name (variable-at-point) 'defvar))) Now, executing show-elisp-src-at-point with point on a C variable just = returns the symbol 'C-source. With an optional variable enable-c-search = in find-lisp-object-file-name, it could instead return the actual C = source file name. I don't think an extra value in help-enable-auto-load would be of any = help in these kind of cases (i.e. when used programmatically). /Stefan Guath On 5 jun 2014, at 09:48, martin rudalics wrote: > > I understand. But it seems an unsatisfactory solution to demand > > callers of find-lisp-object-file-name to pre-evaluate > > (get-buffer-create " *DOC*") in order to activate its c-source = search > > ability (i.e. convoluted code, code breaks when buffer name changes > > etc). Maybe just add an optional argument in > > find-lisp-object-file-name? Something like enable-c-search with the > > explanation "Please note that this will be memory consuming."? >=20 > How about reserving an extra value for `help-enable-auto-load' which, = if > set, would trigger auto-creating the *DOC* buffer. >=20 > martin