From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6991: Please keep bytecode out of *Backtrace* buffers Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 10:40:38 -0700 Message-ID: References: <8739tm9vzl.fsf@jidanni.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1341250899 4998 80.91.229.3 (2 Jul 2012 17:41:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 17:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 6991-done@debbugs.gnu.org, 6991@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Juanma Barranquero'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 02 19:41:38 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Slkcu-0004hg-P1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2012 19:41:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35545 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Slkct-0003hi-GH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2012 13:41:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36082) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Slkcq-0003hX-AD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2012 13:41:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Slkco-00028G-J8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2012 13:41:27 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:33502) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Slkco-00027w-Fj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2012 13:41:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SlkhF-0002mB-Qb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2012 13:46:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:46:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6991 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 6991-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6991.13412511219332 (code B ref 6991); Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:46:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6991) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jul 2012 17:45:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43046 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Slkgb-0002Py-Co for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2012 13:45:21 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:50979) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SlkgZ-0002NN-9T; Mon, 02 Jul 2012 13:45:20 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q62HeeZN013493 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 2 Jul 2012 17:40:41 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q62HeeG1026731 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 2 Jul 2012 17:40:40 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt120.oracle.com (abhmt120.oracle.com [141.146.116.72]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q62HeekG027200; Mon, 2 Jul 2012 12:40:40 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 02 Jul 2012 10:40:39 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Aczxg8XkzBt0gwdOQjC5j/k7I06MExm9TxlA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:61498 Archived-At: > > Why? =A0No reason given. =A0This is a reasonable request, which=20 > > would improve correspondence about bugs and user difficulties. And no response to that question. I've reopened this bug. > > Users who are aware of the problem often have to manually=20 > > excise such binary codes and replace them with `...' or nothing. >=20 > Yes. Not two days ago I had to do exactly that. I do it quite frequently. And I see portions of backtrace text sent by = email and posted to websites quite often - including in this bug list! Posting a backtrace is a common and reasonable way to communicate about = many Emacs problems. Needing to hand-sanitize a backtrace log to remove byte = code portions is silly. That's what machines and software are for. > > This should at least be a wishlist item, IMO. =A0Or at least=20 > > give a convincing argument why the request is not appropriate. >=20 > Agreed. Users should be able to control this (e.g. via an option, and perhaps = even a toggle key in buffer *Backtrace*. The usefulness of this should be a no-brainer. I cannot speak to the difficulty of implementating the fix.