From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21874: 25.0.50; point-entered no longer works Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 22:14:30 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1458785723 3788 80.91.229.3 (24 Mar 2016 02:15:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 02:15:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 21874@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier To: Kaushal Modi Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 24 03:15:12 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aiunn-0006VI-Vz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 03:15:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47117 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aiunm-0007xf-9w for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 22:15:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60787) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aiunh-0007uE-9z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 22:15:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aiune-0007Rr-4J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 22:15:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:37809) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aiune-0007Rn-1U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 22:15:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aiund-0001Ay-Ty for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 22:15:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: David Reitter Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 02:15:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21874 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21874-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21874.14587856804476 (code B ref 21874); Thu, 24 Mar 2016 02:15:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21874) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Mar 2016 02:14:40 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34936 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aiunI-0001A6-Cu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 22:14:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qk0-f178.google.com ([209.85.220.178]:33266) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aiunG-00019o-6J for 21874@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 22:14:38 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-qk0-f178.google.com with SMTP id s5so14730224qkd.0 for <21874@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 19:14:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=VSnosmGAnVLWg1BsG42OQpbE8cnyQpBtD4UY7innwoo=; b=fhKpWtqVcHwyJT8qpQxrfvY0oNAGoCSILy5BQZVv99btW+e9TKCm6hmtwGJz/13NAp dAeXYrTJSLdgr6SCPK9tyKk7XMh8yVn4vEDPP05jp5jw4NqO1o4jPmV3g/DTMwR8kWxh izH71pvVIGDYcuAQ2l6xZedky5lPUn/pVN9hEHkNsVcVctULb/fLb0xfFoFrTHG2qp5F 1ljyCojSIx3jnTYeD5eBtCrc0wPJgKCyqTu429lah7KgxErAHqsfAOxQOJUCAvUv8nu1 pV0bTD71Rlfeb0tZZ2ckTo5RZ1wipA7IAu/beS48uf35S8Pmzhfg43kOnyAp/Rzt/p54 t8QA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=VSnosmGAnVLWg1BsG42OQpbE8cnyQpBtD4UY7innwoo=; b=JG0pkNz4Pq750fjVk8Y8PN2YYv438RLlvjmjhEaPLS2Utyoe2HufkBq0dKZn0UXmVW uBfOAVpee4N/4DFm2x7H4XTc3HYdKvOktOGFUWRhbtMFtZ+28TRTnm4APOUM9USo/8yu ppVTmOnBmxzU1mP4qIKTWi0jF1BrJvpeqTJFFBFZxf+AM8xBJ/UuBIOmEfFWR83FpPYi IA1acZREec+j7BX5Kwp9g+tM6QXoeB2gsmpwONhRN2Lh5YGe9DsbKBsXahcm47rXfdRm AdtvUJzfpAm/3a2fnDq7eb51ufNS0gpUUPGqi+pJlWidL0N8KkKlyvnzPsFmk3QlHmjp rhNw== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJL9tf632Wu0S1+Y/FvN5PRfZFxuUfGCXPXuD7kd2rcig1NtrpQO80+IzOjcgA3XDg== X-Received: by 10.55.74.14 with SMTP id x14mr7696158qka.70.1458785672818; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 19:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [10.0.1.7] (c-71-58-212-112.hsd1.pa.comcast.net. [71.58.212.112]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c2sm2401886qkb.41.2016.03.23.19.14.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 23 Mar 2016 19:14:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:115430 Archived-At: On Mar 23, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Kaushal Modi = wrote: >=20 > @David The fact that the below get the behavior you want, would you = consider this bug as closed? Well, it was surprising that cursor-intangible as a property wasn=E2=80=99= t sufficient until the mode was enabled. I can see why one would design = it that way. So, in order to not have people bump into errors all the time (which, = IIRC, also are displayed in the echo area, overwriting the mini buffer = that the user is working on at that very moment), I would still suggest = that this protection be made default. (I=E2=80=99ve had that in = Aquamacs for a long time.) Stefan=E2=80=99s desire to copy the prompt is the exception (perhaps = because he=E2=80=99s working on and maybe teaching Emacs). The user who = wants to delete the whole text behind the prompt to replace it, or = mark-all and delete selection, or C-a to the beginning and so on, this = user is the norm. We should think about that use case first. - D=