From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11862: [PATCH 8/9 v2] doc/lispref/intro.texi: More preciselanguage for what a variable is Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 18:58:12 -0700 Message-ID: References: <22f1c29cd7e44a3e91ca67e534dc03a4-mfwitten@gmail.com> <3c1c3c1cfe3840e19551bfd0424eb99d-mfwitten@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1341539955 28766 80.91.229.3 (6 Jul 2012 01:59:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 01:59:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 11862@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Michael Witten'" , "'Richard Stallman'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 06 03:59:14 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SmxpB-0000tQ-2H for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2012 03:59:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48290 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SmxpA-0006ur-5Z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 21:59:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49346) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Smxp7-0006ue-3B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 21:59:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Smxp5-0004sE-CG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 21:59:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:41624) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Smxp5-0004s9-96 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 21:59:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Smxtq-00041S-0o for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 22:04:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 02:04:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11862 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 11862-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11862.134154019915413 (code B ref 11862); Fri, 06 Jul 2012 02:04:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 11862) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2012 02:03:19 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51170 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Smxt7-00040X-Qe for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 22:03:19 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:20997) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Smxt5-00040Q-AZ for 11862@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 22:03:16 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q661wHoH021383 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 6 Jul 2012 01:58:18 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q661wGSA021082 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 6 Jul 2012 01:58:16 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt109.oracle.com (abhmt109.oracle.com [141.146.116.61]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q661wF7A030793; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 20:58:15 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.161.157) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 18:58:15 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <3c1c3c1cfe3840e19551bfd0424eb99d-mfwitten@gmail.com> Thread-Index: Ac1bA3pjHPbJLdASSpWNm19G8rbUwQAFvS4w X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:61634 Archived-At: > - A @dfn{variable} is a name that can hold a value. Although nearly > -all variables can be set by the user, certain variables exist > -specifically so that users can change them; these are called > @dfn{user > -options}. Ordinary variables and user options are described using a > -format like that for functions except that there are no arguments. > + A @dfn{variable} is a name that can be bound to an object; binding > +is frequently referred to as @dfn{setting}, and the object to which > +a variable is set is often called a @dfn{value} that the variable > +@dfn{holds}. Although nearly all variables can be set by the user, > +certain variables exist specifically so that users can change them; > +these are called @dfn{user options}. Ordinary variables and user > +options are described using a format like that for functions, except > +that there are no arguments. FWIW, to me, a Lisp variable is not just a "name" that can be bound or set... It is a Lisp symbol that is bound or set...