From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23786: 25.0.95 and 24.5: NS variants both scroll too much Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 14:36:10 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20160618114537.GB3996@breton.holly.idiocy.org> <3E04DF9B-5690-4FE8-AD5F-4B9CAE0C8389@Freenet.DE> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1472128763 18105 195.159.176.226 (25 Aug 2016 12:39:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:39:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 23786@debbugs.gnu.org, Peter Dyballa , Jiajie Chen , Alan Third To: Toon Claes Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 25 14:39:16 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bctwA-0003tt-LF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 14:39:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56120 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bctw8-0003bl-3X for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 08:39:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33198) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bctw2-0003bZ-R4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 08:39:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bctvx-0007iV-TP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 08:39:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:42373) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bctvx-0007iO-Q5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 08:39:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bctvx-0006hK-KB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 08:39:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Peter Dyballa Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:39:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23786 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23786-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23786.147212872425717 (code B ref 23786); Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:39:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23786) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Aug 2016 12:38:44 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40085 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bctvg-0006gj-Gx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 08:38:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([195.4.92.91]:54376) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bctve-0006gb-TP for 23786@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 08:38:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.4.92.141] (helo=mjail1.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.85 #1) id 1bctvO-0007jq-IT; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 14:38:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37762 helo=mjail1.freenet.de) by mjail1.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (Exim 4.85 #1) id 1bctvO-0005vd-Cv; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 14:38:26 +0200 Original-Received: from mx3.freenet.de ([195.4.92.13]:49916) by mjail1.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (Exim 4.85 #1) id 1bcttG-0003Ti-Ob; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 14:36:14 +0200 Original-Received: from [195.71.165.224] (port=13851 helo=demucwolf85.muc.de.ad.dom) by mx3.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (port 587) (Exim 4.85 #1) id 1bcttG-0001Ch-Jm; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 14:36:14 +0200 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Originated-At: 195.71.165.224!13851 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:122644 Archived-At: > Am 16.08.2016 um 21:55 schrieb Toon Claes : >=20 > Peter Dyballa writes: >=20 >> Hello! >=20 > Hi Pete, >=20 >> all scroll too much when I use the extra Bluetooth trackpad of an = iMac >> (27=E2=80=9C, Late 2013) instead of the Mighty Mouse. >=20 > Is it a Magic Trackpad, or a Magic Trackpad 2 with Force Touch? > I use the latter on a daily basis. But I have an old one laying around > somewhere. I also have a Magic Mouse. But you are using a Mighty = Mouse, > aren't you? I did not buy anything, it=E2=80=99s the gear my employer provides me = with. System Report/System Information says about the mouse: Services: Apple Magic Mouse Manufacturer: Apple (0x3, 0x31C) Firmware Version: 0x0306 Vendor ID: 0x05AC Product ID: 0x030D Class of Device: 0x05 0x20 0x2580 And about the trackpad it reports: Services: Apple Wireless Trackpad Manufacturer: Apple (0x3, 0x31C) Firmware Version: 0x0160 Vendor ID: 0x05AC Product ID: 0x030E Class of Device: 0x05 0x25 0x2594 >=20 >> Yes. The default setting for the mouse could be a bit improved, using >> the suggestions of Jiajie Chen =E2=80=93 I am usually not working = with mice =E2=80=93 >> because it scrolls a bit too fast, but by far not that fast as the >> trackpad. >=20 > I also did not know about those settings, thanks a bunch Jiajie Chen. > These settings feel a lot more natural, so maybe we should consider > changing the defaults (although I actually never scroll with mouse in > Emacs). >=20 >> Is there a way to find out on the command line the preferences set = for >> mouse and trackpad? Maybe it would help determine the cause for my = bug >> report. Meanwhile mouse and trackpad are working better. The commands below give = for me: "com.apple.mouse.scaling" =3D "0.875"; "com.apple.trackpad.scaling" =3D "1.5"; >=20 > Mac OS X has the `defaults` tool to read/write settings from the = command > line. For example on my machine: >=20 > $ defaults read -g | grep mouse >=20 > "com.apple.mouse.scaling" =3D "2.5"; >=20 > $ defaults read -g | grep trackpad > "com.apple.trackpad.forceClick" =3D 1; > "com.apple.trackpad.scaling" =3D "1.5"; My customisation looks minimal: (setq scroll-conservatively 1000) '(mouse-wheel-scroll-amount (quote (3 ((shift) . 1) ((control))))) I think that I just changed 2 to 3=E2=80=A6 For GNU Emacs 25 I have changed (setq mouse-wheel-progressive-speed nil) to = '(mouse-wheel-progressive-speed t). Behaviour of GNU Emacs 24 and 25 is = now fine. =E2=80=94 Greetings Pete