From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8628: 24.0.50; `thing-at-point-bounds-of-list-at-point' - no good Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 13:06:53 -0700 Message-ID: References: <5391FA6F599B415389A292EF4D6CC79B@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1305317292 15878 80.91.229.12 (13 May 2011 20:08:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 20:08:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 8628@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Stefan Monnier'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 13 22:08:08 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QKyed-000683-EW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 22:08:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48871 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QKyec-0003ID-Pq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 16:08:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:42015) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QKyea-0003I7-Ad for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 16:08:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QKyeZ-0005Ga-Bo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 16:08:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:59995) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QKyeZ-0005GS-93 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 16:08:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QKyeY-0005pi-J8; Fri, 13 May 2011 16:08:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 20:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8628 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 8628-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8628.130531724722373 (code B ref 8628); Fri, 13 May 2011 20:08:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 8628) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 May 2011 20:07:27 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QKydy-0005oo-Ng for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 16:07:26 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QKydv-0005oW-3F for 8628@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 16:07:23 -0400 Original-Received: from rtcsinet21.oracle.com (rtcsinet21.oracle.com [66.248.204.29]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id p4DK71dN025815 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 13 May 2011 20:07:07 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by rtcsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p4DK6xfC029644 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 13 May 2011 20:07:00 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt005.oracle.com (abhmt005.oracle.com [141.146.116.14]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p4DK6s6o003024; Fri, 13 May 2011 15:06:54 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.43.79) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 13 May 2011 13:06:54 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcwRpMHDQ4m4GPwgRrGJ/2wvBPq0UwAA23lw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6090 In-Reply-To: X-Source-IP: rtcsinet21.oracle.com [66.248.204.29] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090201.4DCD8F74.010F:SCFSTAT5015188,ss=1,fgs=0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 16:08:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:46454 Archived-At: > > Put point just after the list `(set-buffer-modified-p nil)'. > > M-: (thing-at-point-bounds-of-list-at-point) > > Nobody should care about > thing-at-point-bounds-of-list-at-point because > it's an internal function. An internal function that is called by other functions, which _do_ affect what users see. See my followup message to the original report. The point is that `bounds-of-thing-at-point' does not work well for type `list'. And the reason is that we have `thing-at-point-bounds-of-list-at-point' - it just messes things up. Get rid of it and you get nothing but improvement. Just try it. Do this and the results for (bounds-of-thing-at-point 'list) are much better: (put 'list 'bounds-of-thing-at-point nil) As I said, > There is no generally no reason to define such > `thing-at-point-bounds-of...' functions. The regular > `bounds-of-thing-at-point' should work, and it does.