From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11655: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 11655 wishlist Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 22:19:29 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87ehomq2fs.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1341724809 5639 80.91.229.3 (8 Jul 2012 05:20:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2012 05:20:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 11655@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Chong Yidong'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 08 07:20:08 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Snjub-0007KU-32 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2012 07:20:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54736 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SnjuZ-0001fe-RY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2012 01:19:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58082) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SnjuW-0001fN-C2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2012 01:19:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SnjuU-0002YL-P5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2012 01:19:55 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46268) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SnjuU-0002YG-Kw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2012 01:19:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SnjzR-0001sO-QC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2012 01:25:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2012 05:25:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11655 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 11655-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11655.13417250927198 (code B ref 11655); Sun, 08 Jul 2012 05:25:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 11655) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jul 2012 05:24:52 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55814 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SnjzI-0001s3-93 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2012 01:24:52 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:34268) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SnjzG-0001rv-RC for 11655@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2012 01:24:51 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q685JfWE024680 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 8 Jul 2012 05:19:42 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q685Jetj017088 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 8 Jul 2012 05:19:41 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt119.oracle.com (abhmt119.oracle.com [141.146.116.71]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q685Je89025692; Sun, 8 Jul 2012 00:19:40 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.186.64) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 22:19:40 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac1cxbDphJhR8CzjSJiTBws9zOwNJQAAlsYg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:61710 Archived-At: Why can't you be reasonable and just change `error' call to a call to `message'? If you _wish_ this bug to be fixed, it is trivial to fix it. There is no need to relegate it to the wishlist (aka /dev/null). It makes zero UI sense for this action to raise an error. Emacs has plenty of ways to notify a user or draw attention. Raising an error is simply not appropriate here. It prevents a user from doing something useful: hiding some info (e.g. temporarily) so s?he can see other info. Warnings about unsaved changes are appropriate when you quit Emacs. At the limit you could argue (but I would disagree) that a user could also be warned about unsaved customizations when s?he quit Customize (e.g. kill the buffer). But certainly not when s?he simply closes/hides the details for a given option/face. And double-certainly not raise an _error_ to effect such a warning. It is not an error to hide details. That is a normal part of using Customize. > > severity 11655 wishlist > Bug #11655 [emacs] 24.1; Customize: clicking down-pointing > triangle should not raise error > Severity set to 'wishlist' from 'normal'