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From: oslsachem <oslsachem@gmail.com>
To: 8562@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#8562: Emacs 23.1 and later don't work in windows 98
Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 03:38:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTimAu27qpYksvHMtdBBSWAPtiiOW4A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83d3k88k6o.fsf@gnu.org>

> Which suggested solution is that?  There were 2 in that thread.

To be honest, I only tried the first one ("start Emacs from the
command-line as: emacs -Q -xrm Emacs.fontBackend:gdi") because:

- I deemed them to be functionally equivalent.

- The second solution involves editing the windows registry (which is
a frail but essential part of the system).

- Emacs doesn't seem to add any entry to the windows registry after
running the "addpm.exe" as opposed to what is stated at
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/MS_002dWindows-Registry.html

- The "set Emacs.fontBackend in the registry" indication is too terse
for me to understand.


> Anyway, Emacs developers need help to debug this, as none of us has
> access to a Windows 9X machine anymore.  If you are willing to work
> with us, I'm sure we will find the solution.

Of course, just tell me what I have to do :).

Here you have "updated" screenshots of what Emacs-23.3 looks like in
windows 98 when started in GUI mode:

Initial size:

http://www.speedyshare.com/files/28318597/EmacsInitialSize.png

Maximized size:

http://www.speedyshare.com/files/28318598/EmacsMaximized.png

File submenu:

http://www.speedyshare.com/files/28318599/EmacsFileSubmenu.png

Edit submenu:

http://www.speedyshare.com/files/28318600/EmacsEditSubmenu.png

The Options and Buffers submenus look hidden but are there:

http://www.speedyshare.com/files/28318601/EmacsOptionsSubmenu.png

http://www.speedyshare.com/files/28318602/EmacsBuffersSubmenu.png

Emacs abort dialog when it eventually has a fatal error:

http://www.speedyshare.com/files/28318603/EmacsAbortDialog.png

Spanish version of Windows 98 error message:  "This program has
performed an illegal operation and will be shut down.  If the problem
persists, contact the program vendor. [Close] [Details]":
Inside the text box, spanish version of Windows 98 error message:
"EMACS caused an invalid page fault in module EMACS.EXE".

     First part:

    http://www.speedyshare.com/files/28318604/EmacsPageFault1stPart.png

    Second part:

    http://www.speedyshare.com/files/28318605/EmacsPageFault2ndPart.png

In the meantime, I've been skimming through the instructions about
compiling and debugging Emacs and I have managed to build Emacs
succesfully and run it using the debugger.

Here is a log of the debugger after spending a while fiddling with the
Emacs submenus until a fatal error happens:

http://www.speedyshare.com/files/28318621/gdb.txt

Notice that I run Emacs more than once and that, the last time,
running Emacs using the suggested solution doesn't produce any
noticeable difference (i.e the fatal error is the same).

Note: I tried to build Emacs using the --no-opt option for configure
but when trying to run Emacs using the debugger, gdb produced an error
("internal-error: virtual memory exhausted: can't allocate ..........
bytes. A problem internal to GDB has been detected, further debugging
may prove unreliable") so I have built Emacs without --no-opt ( I
guess that is why the executables end up in oo-spd/i386 instead of
oo/i386).


Unrelated note:
Sorry for the poor text format of my previous message.  I failed to
notice that I was using rich text format instead of plain text.
Hopefully this message will look better.





  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-06  1:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-26 21:55 bug#8562: Emacs 23.1 and later don't work in windows 98 oslsachem
2011-04-27  3:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-06  1:38   ` oslsachem [this message]
2011-05-06 11:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-06 15:28       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-22 21:32       ` oslsachem
2011-05-23 13:43         ` Jason Rumney
2011-05-24 19:31           ` oslsachem
2011-05-23 17:39         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-24 19:32           ` oslsachem
2011-05-24 20:37             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-25  2:01               ` oslsachem
2011-05-25  4:28                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-25 10:53                   ` oslsachem
2011-05-25 16:44                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-26  1:50                       ` oslsachem
2011-05-27 14:04                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-27 17:22                           ` oslsachem
2011-05-27 18:17                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-27 16:13                         ` oslsachem
2011-05-27 17:15                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-27 18:33                             ` oslsachem
2011-05-27 20:51                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-30 15:12                                 ` oslsachem
2011-05-30 18:43                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-31 18:16                                     ` oslsachem
2011-05-31 21:02                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-31 21:04                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-02 23:41                                         ` oslsachem
2011-06-03  7:10                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-03  8:29                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-03 20:10                                             ` oslsachem
2011-06-03 20:51                                               ` oslsachem
2011-06-03 22:52                                                 ` oslsachem
2011-06-04  7:11                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-05  1:58                                                     ` oslsachem
2011-06-05  3:07                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-05  5:48                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-05 22:32                                                         ` oslsachem
2011-06-07 19:25                                                           ` oslsachem
2011-06-07 20:32                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-08 18:11                                                               ` oslsachem
2011-06-08 20:36                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-12 21:47                                                               ` oslsachem
2011-10-01 11:06                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-26 23:05                                                                   ` oslsachem
2011-10-01 11:03                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-26 22:46                                                                 ` oslsachem
2011-10-27 14:53                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                                                     ` <CADv-x1szHOjvVzg8xAYtZNE4iByugKeQz37SY+-dNVucioB70w@mail.gmail.com>
2011-10-28 10:21                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-28 12:11                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-29 22:24                                                                           ` oslsachem
2011-11-04 11:42                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-04 20:59                                                                               ` oslsachem
2011-11-04 22:01                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-28 10:10                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii

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