From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reuben Thomas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8492: 23.3; Time to use a different binding for completion? Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 23:49:43 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87zknuhxl4.fsf@sc3d.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1303340871 17747 80.91.229.12 (20 Apr 2011 23:07:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 23:07:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 8492@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 21 01:07:46 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QCgUs-00057s-Na for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 01:07:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51658 helo=lists2.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QCgUs-0007Fm-3V for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 19:07:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:32936) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QCgUn-0007FZ-OQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 19:07:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QCgUm-0004NL-QQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 19:07:41 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:41710) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QCgUm-0004NG-OZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 19:07:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QCgEg-0006Pj-3B; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:51:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Reuben Thomas Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 22:51:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8492 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 8492-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8492.130333980724592 (code B ref 8492); Wed, 20 Apr 2011 22:51:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 8492) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Apr 2011 22:50:07 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QCgDm-0006Ob-MU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:50:07 -0400 Original-Received: from exprod7og109.obsmtp.com ([64.18.2.171]) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QCgDk-0006Nn-Ci for 8492@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:50:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-px0-f179.google.com ([209.85.212.179]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob109.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKTa9jCPllCSV+Htu2QyVMuK7EBmiQ2HSc@postini.com; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 15:50:04 PDT Original-Received: by pxi2 with SMTP id 2so1117589pxi.24 for <8492@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 15:49:44 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.68.38.102 with SMTP id f6mr11698278pbk.199.1303339783961; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 15:49:43 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.68.59.198 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 15:49:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:51:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:45902 Archived-At: On 20 April 2011 23:48, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Having said that, no key binding is better than a clever key binding. >> Some uses of completion perhaps don't need a key (as for example many >> uses of code completion, which in other IDEs pop up a list of >> completions by default). > > I think this one is a fallacy: popping up the menu may not need a key > binding, but you do need a key binding in order to select something from > that menu. =A0Admittedly, it changes the problem enough that the solution > may be simpler (e.g. M-n and M-p can be used for that whereas they don't > seem nearly as attractive for completion-at-point). I should have been more precise, because I agree with you. I should have said "perhaps doesn't need a global key binding". --=20 http://rrt.sc3d.org