From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8492: 23.3; Time to use a different binding for completion? Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 20:49:59 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87zknuhxl4.fsf@sc3d.org> <773F1105A680404C90121E510917AFAF@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1303412862 17720 80.91.229.12 (21 Apr 2011 19:07:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 19:07:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 8492@debbugs.gnu.org, Reuben Thomas To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 21 21:07:37 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QCzDy-0001zx-35 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 21:07:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41420 helo=lists2.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QCzDx-0001vZ-Hs for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=h+/NlbJBJxM82pWoyrWF8L99VDfh3BqDt7emuXLLswtvNiAmaAscZdDHlevsIr8qtD hE5d+N0EfX9vp316zOod28Iaixzf3f32+08q8NPU/D+vM70/tRKrW323G0hb69ibTQvY LQaRzO8sczhNl0yXPBUhFiXqRRB8ApcxBbQ14= Original-Received: by 10.213.103.80 with SMTP id j16mr774921ebo.96.1303411819305; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 11:50:19 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.213.23.8 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 11:49:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 14:51:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:45925 Archived-At: On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Drew Adams wrote: >> >> > Currently, the "usable default" is ESC TAB. >> >> >> >> Which does not work at all if you use Viper. >> > >> > We should not change Emacs default bindings based on the >> > bindings of Viper - or of any other emulator - or of any >> > other mode etc. >> >> Thanks for your view, Drew, but I found this statement of you just >> unusable and unnecessary here. > > You claim that a given default key "does not work at all" if you put your= self in > a special emulation mode. =C2=A0So what? =C2=A0If I play chess in checker= s mode should I > expect the default, chess binding of each piece to still "work" in checke= rs? This is just plain stupid. Viper is not just any emulation mode. It happen to be key bindings a lot of potential and current Emacs users knows.