From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9362: 24.0.50; Explain in manual(s) Dired/ls permissions listing on Windows Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 07:44:08 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1EEEDDB70B5C4007B90959E3E5F2E5E5@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1315752295 19439 80.91.229.12 (11 Sep 2011 14:44:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:44:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9362@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Lennart Borgman'" , "'Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 11 16:44:51 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2lH8-00033Z-MQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 16:44:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40646 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R2lH8-0000bL-AQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 10:44:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:42815) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R2lH5-0000aT-Gt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 10:44:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R2lH4-0000jh-K4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 10:44:47 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:60432) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R2lH4-0000jc-IT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 10:44:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2lLC-0008WE-3Y; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 10:49:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:49:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9362 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9362-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9362.131575251432712 (code B ref 9362); Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:49:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9362) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2011 14:48:34 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2lKj-0008VY-Hb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 10:48:33 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2lKi-0008VS-AP for 9362@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 10:48:32 -0400 Original-Received: from rtcsinet21.oracle.com (rtcsinet21.oracle.com [66.248.204.29]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id p8BEiD1t029522 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:44:15 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by rtcsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8BEiBaJ025878 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:44:12 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt105.oracle.com (abhmt105.oracle.com [141.146.116.57]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p8BEi6Gw027163; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 09:44:06 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.62.110) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 07:44:05 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcxwKiBQaG8gOwTJT0KAzzztkFdaFAAZqgCw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 In-Reply-To: X-Source-IP: rtcsinet21.oracle.com [66.248.204.29] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090207.4E6CC93F.00F7,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 10:49:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:50885 Archived-At: > > Isn't explaining how file permissions on various file systems kinda > > beyond the scope of the Emacs manual? > > Isn't this is about what Emacs does, not about the various > file systems? Exactly. The _Emacs_ `ls' command is not sufficiently documented. In particular, what it does on Windows is special and needs to be described. Otherwise the output is meaningless to users. `ls' is an Emacs command. No outside doc for Windows will tell a user what it does. Likewise, `dired'.