From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14348: 24.3.50; `custom-magic-alist': Bad & missing handling of `themed' Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 08:44:10 -0700 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1367682325 24568 80.91.229.3 (4 May 2013 15:45:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 15:45:25 +0000 (UTC) To: 14348@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 04 17:45:23 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UYeeH-0002XO-OE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 May 2013 17:45:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57718 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYeeH-0001Ho-DV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Sat, 4 May 2013 15:44:13 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 04 May 2013 08:44:13 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac5I3jgyHtpm8HgOSYK9LQZqSqYr6A== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:73953 Archived-At: The value `themed' was added as a possibility for `custom-magic-alist'. But this seems to have been done only partially and wrongly. 1. When `themed' is the value, the only accompanying text says only this: "THEMED." That tells you nothing about what the state means. 2. When a Customize group is involved, the accompanying text instead says only this: "visible group members are all at standard values." Is that correct? That text seems to have simply been copy+pasted from the text for value `standard'. Doesn't seem correct to me. 3. But I don't know what value `themed' means, so I cannot suggest a correction. Searching for `themed' in the file, I see `custom-themed', whose doc string says it is a face used when the customize item has been set by a theme. So perhaps `themed' as a state value means that the item has been set by a theme? Just a guess. But what does it mean to have been set by a theme? Is that something that the user did in Customize, or is it something that was done outside of Customize? 4. The `custom-magic-alist' doc string was never updated, to reflect the addition of the possible value `themed'. It details what each value means - except for `themed'. In sum, this new value was added without doing the work necessary to let users know WTF it is for. Please make clear what the state means, including what it indicates wrt how the value was set/changed/defined. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2013-04-26 on ODIEONE Bzr revision: 112399 eggert@cs.ucla.edu-20130426193109-3chlhmjv621m7zdz Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.7) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -IC:/Devel/emacs/build/include --ldflags -LC:/Devel/emacs/build/lib'