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Fri, 2 Apr 2010 15:27:29 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt353.oracle.com (acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o329qJnG029609; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 15:27:25 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt013.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 141891471270221971; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 08:26:11 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.175.216.242) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 08:26:11 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <83d3yhx6jr.fsf@gnu.org> Thread-Index: AcrSckk4cP4m8N7RQrO81mQ6hoTxJwABdmZg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Source-IP: acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090206.4BB60CDF.001B:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 11:28:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:35874 Archived-At: > > Keep in mind too that in some documentation systems, which > > don't even have the fine-grained "node" size of Info (on > > average), cross references generally do not > > take you to an exact destination position. They just get > > you to the appropriate section. > > That Info does support this feature is one of its advantages, and we > should not lose it, IMO. Without it, reading a large manual as a > reference is a PITA. > > Besides, it simply feels as a bug (and actually is): you are placed in > the middle of a sentence that, more often than not, has nothing to do > with the subject you are after. I think everyone agrees that it is a desirable feature. If we can have both exact cursor destination and breadcrumbs, that will be ideal. Both are useful features. It is somewhat disorienting to not have point land only nearby and not at exactly the right spot. And it is disorienting to not immediately see where you are in the document hierarchy (beyond just immediate up, next, and prev nodes). We should aim to get both working properly together.