From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3395: 23.0.94; Remove colon after option etc. name Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:57:13 -0700 Message-ID: References: <43B19EE291914BCFA51EC5AFA8C91ADB@us.oracle.com> <4A1EAAAA.9030706@gmx.at> <4A1EB10C.7090803@gmx.at> <454F42E7EE4E4D469F610AF5A18AE342@us.oracle.com> <4A1EC5C2.4000309@gmx.at> <9D8BCAFE20B943AEB749A91BCDF19420@us.oracle.com> <4A1EF6C8.9020601@gmx.at> Reply-To: Drew Adams , 3395@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1243545455 14762 80.91.229.12 (28 May 2009 21:17:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 21:17:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 3395@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: "'martin rudalics'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 28 23:17:33 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1M9myi-0008Ua-Cu for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 May 2009 23:17:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42682 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M9myh-0005kb-9x for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 May 2009 17:17:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M9myb-0005h2-76 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 May 2009 17:17:25 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M9myW-0005aY-ND for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 May 2009 17:17:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59819 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M9myW-0005aH-CW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 May 2009 17:17:20 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:45322) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M9myV-0006Mj-TH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 May 2009 17:17:20 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n4SLHGii015079; Thu, 28 May 2009 14:17:17 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n4SL58w0012784; Thu, 28 May 2009 14:05:08 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 21:05:07 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 3395 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 3395-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B3395.124354424111741 (code B ref 3395); Thu, 28 May 2009 21:05:07 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3395) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 28 May 2009 20:57:21 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from rgminet11.oracle.com (rcsinet11.oracle.com [148.87.113.123]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n4SKvGoa011722 for <3395@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 28 May 2009 13:57:17 -0700 Original-Received: from rgminet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by rgminet11.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n4SKvo3H008466 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 28 May 2009 20:57:51 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt010.oracle.com (abhmt010.oracle.com [141.146.116.19]) by rgminet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n4SKvBWA018960; Thu, 28 May 2009 20:57:11 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 28 May 2009 13:57:06 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4A1EF6C8.9020601@gmx.at> Thread-Index: Acnf1NZo9+6RmRSeTjqfj0O6TWNm0wAANyyA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Source-IP: abhmt010.oracle.com [141.146.116.19] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A010201.4A1EFAA3.0210:SCFSTAT5015188,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 17:17:24 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:28277 Archived-At: > >> > This is not about changing the command. It is simply about > >> > removing the useless colon. Is that too hard? > >> > >> It might be. > > > > Then I guess you'll have to mark it too hard to fix, and move on. > > You have to find someone who agrees that this is a bug. I don't have to do any such thing. This is an enhancement request. Like all bug reports and enhancement requests, Emacs developers are free to choose not to fix it. I make a request or report a problem. You decide whether to fix it. > >> Hence code like > >> (unless (string-match ":" format) > >> (error "Bad format")) > >> > >> in cus-edit.el is something you understand and can explain. > > > > I don't understand the question or comment. > > Obviously because you didn't try to. Nothing obvious about it. I do not understand what you are trying to say. You state that I understand and can explain something, but I have no idea what that means. What is it that you think I understand and can explain? And why? > > What's the point? > > That colons sometimes serve additional purposes in custom buffers > besides of being displayed as visible characters. Ah, I see. I cannot speak to the difficulty of implementing the enhancement. I reported this from a user point of view, not that of an implementor. I would _guess_ that this particular colon would be easily identifiable, but I don't claim that. I have not looked at the code. I asked if this was hard. You said it might be. I said that if it is too hard then you will likely need to just move on. Dunno what more I can say. It is you who estimates the difficulty, not I. It is you who decides whether to make this enhancement.