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From: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattiase@acm.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 43632@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#43632: Raw bytes printed as latin-1 in echo area and *Messages*
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 18:00:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <B1232A8B-D3C2-4066-AA32-4360316051CD@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83mu1cr5fn.fsf@gnu.org>

26 sep. 2020 kl. 16.14 skrev Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>:

First, thank you for your quick answer.

> If you want to see escapes, set
> print-escape-nonascii non-nil.

Certainly, but that isn't needed when printing to a buffer, as in (prin1 "\377").

The print-escape-nonascii docs say

  When the output goes in a multibyte buffer, this feature is
  enabled regardless of the value of the variable.

Why, then, is the echo area not treated as a multibyte buffer in this regard? Is there a practical reason or is it an artefact of history that cannot be changed?

(Note that the echo area buffers, the minibuffer, and *Messages* are all multibyte.)

If the behaviour of (prin1 x t) cannot be changed, then what about eval-expression (M-|)? Being an interactive command, surely compatibility isn't an obstacle to making it more useful?

I'm assuming that it would be more useful to see raw bytes shown octal-escaped or otherwise visually distinct from their interpretation as Latin-1. If nothing else, it would make sense to have the same behaviour as when evaluating something in *scratch*.

It would also be interesting to know why, when print-escape-nonascii is nil, unibyte strings are decoded specifically as Latin-1 (and not, say, UTF-8). I presume it is an artefact of history.






  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-09-26 16:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-26 12:51 bug#43632: Raw bytes printed as latin-1 in echo area and *Messages* Mattias Engdegård
2020-09-26 14:05 ` Andreas Schwab
2020-09-26 14:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-26 14:22   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-26 14:26     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-26 16:00   ` Mattias Engdegård [this message]
2020-09-26 16:10     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-26 16:53       ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-09-26 16:57         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-26 17:27           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-27 10:58             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-27 11:05               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-27 11:13                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-27 11:25                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-27 11:36                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-27 11:43                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-26 19:53           ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-09-27  5:56             ` Eli Zaretskii

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