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would it be unrealistic to suggest that Emacs by default switches >> to ls-lisp.el on all hosts? > > ls-lisp.el is intended for MS-Windows, so IMO that would be a step > backwards. Why is it a step backwards? > If we want to use some GNU ls specific flags, it would be better to try > to detect GNU ls in some other way. Yes, that is another possibility, but it means more work for not so much benefit (docs, manual, detection). Personally I could imagine Emacs going over to completely use it's own facilities and left external binary to those who find they need some extra feature or speed.