From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dani Moncayo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7700: 24.0.50; C-y binding withing Isearch mode Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 12:39:37 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20101223171434.GA3971@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1293192330 29711 80.91.229.12 (24 Dec 2010 12:05:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 12:05:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 7700@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 24 13:05:25 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PW6Oi-0003SO-VV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2010 13:05:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41241 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PW6D1-0001J7-4e for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2010 06:53:19 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=47586 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PW6Cs-0001H5-H4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2010 06:53:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PW6Cp-0006rd-0T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2010 06:53:08 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:47691) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PW6Co-0006rT-PV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2010 06:53:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PW5tO-00028W-R6; Fri, 24 Dec 2010 06:33:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Dani Moncayo Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 11:33:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7700 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 7700-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7700.12931903828207 (code B ref 7700); Fri, 24 Dec 2010 11:33:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7700) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Dec 2010 11:33:02 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PW5tM-00028I-CL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2010 06:33:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-gx0-f172.google.com ([209.85.161.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PW5tK-000286-Fo for 7700@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2010 06:32:58 -0500 Original-Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so3418281gxk.3 for <7700@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 24 Dec 2010 03:39:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ngAiswxWBnll3Co/aw2yls206jp+OgFW7Wt/K4FcdpQ=; b=b0G9dh8YBQ3Q0lYue64KS0/Aias0MaanM1bjUn4xmh2KAwHh5zrVnHPTn9PUajeX5H XWZVt9oSRE6PtGQyfR6pY1tvaY3vrL5ylplX4Mgj6AFnlIo3MB9SD6rjPU1bX5Ulqmd9 MaCmgclhOBwiy1Qphx0oUgjfTSoWY7v596hMw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=rGtk5dqrt74XqcG+feIniSrRGJ+YlGOjrl9yhLFxRTN9HIQy9mKIKlEUAMNs6hHLOU w477sVHSGdyXV93G5wrb5g0rWHc2fE8PomVrrJJoqKgXfLblaMniomwS1G+CH3k7hRQ7 EnsB0Jv0MD9kNRm9Oex4M1ZhkQtrCLrdh0YFQ= Original-Received: by 10.91.51.22 with SMTP id d22mr826268agk.175.1293190777954; Fri, 24 Dec 2010 03:39:37 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.90.227.16 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Dec 2010 03:39:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 06:33:02 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:42794 Archived-At: On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 04:25, Lennart Borgman wrote: > On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Stefan Monnier > wrote: >>> I use C-y ("grab to next end of line") quite a bit. >> >> I'd much rather have a prefix key that lets me use any standard movement >> to select the text to grab from the buffer (so " C-e" would do >> what C-y does and " M-f" would do more or less what C-w does). > > > I like the logic/mnemonic but wouldn't it would be cumbersome to use it? > Not much, provided that the key was required only one time. I think would be good to have that key as a switch to turn "grabbing mode" on/off. > I suggest instead that any standard forward movement command while in > isearch forward mode should select the text to grab WITHOUT any prefix > key. For backward movement I suggest a similar logic. > I prefer Stefan's proposal because with that there would be no need to alter the current meaning of prefix arguments in movement commands, and thus, you could use movement commands _even with prefix arguments_ to both (a) grab text from the buffer, and (b) leave Isearch mode and move point (all in a single operation, as you can do currently). I think it would be more consistent/intuitive/powerful. -- Dani Moncayo