From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7408: Linux patchutils: Development of the project? Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 22:59:53 +0100 Message-ID: References: <1213200935.4147.62.camel@cyberelk.elk> <87pqu59d16.fsf@picasso.cante.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1289946288 14336 80.91.229.12 (16 Nov 2010 22:24:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 22:24:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 7408@debbugs.gnu.org To: Jari Aalto Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 16 23:24:43 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PITx7-0006Tf-2y for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:24:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53558 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PITnB-0006fX-5T for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:14:21 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=37557 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PITn4-0006e2-8W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:14:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PITn3-0007Yg-4i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:14:14 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:37992) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PITn3-0007Ya-0q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:14:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PITVR-0008OC-TY; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:56:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 21:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7408 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 7408-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7408.128994451832229 (code B ref 7408); Tue, 16 Nov 2010 21:56:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7408) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2010 21:55:18 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PITUk-0008Nm-7e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:55:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ew0-f44.google.com ([209.85.215.44]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PITUh-0008Nf-4U for 7408@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:55:15 -0500 Original-Received: by ewy8 with SMTP id 8so323532ewy.3 for <7408@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:00:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0GPLI6/VbcakLMOASdHLW3xpLov8bFA9yFU63AluL5o=; b=kTncpSTT6y/FY9OmJKcyuFhNrPwBfHNoL437A/llp8LPspMlmavsigV3iFSWKflKfw EiyxiY7P0RowUS2PTC/seY4S77aZS8nkAUOfpaBQp1bE6db+MDGZ0Azlf+w5Rqi7sVeH HhzaCXezLp77Gw3qoGlrdyLRmrZJ8m5emuTrY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IJa+y366pOBaahd7Tqa4yX9FJIAfUvmHvNDYGQNWJ0o9p7ZOVZU5v5kfRBXdtkC9Ag cRCKYSY2ZsVKvLJR2ioVkiPthblk1u1DjqaOKhrsJ+80fRr4RPqSDFqNcx3LYGg6Q5Ka TBaehBiMJq2Q9TovwYwW3DGjwciYLL/xaYNoI= Original-Received: by 10.213.114.4 with SMTP id c4mr1174965ebq.84.1289944814018; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:00:14 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.213.22.135 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:59:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87pqu59d16.fsf@picasso.cante.net> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:56:01 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:41676 Archived-At: On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Jari Aalto wrote: > Glenn Morris gnu.org> >> subr.el has had a dolist definition since at least Emacs 21.x; ie 9 year= s. >> Therefore this cannot be a major issue in practice. > > In my book it is still a bug, no matter how many years ago this bug were > introduced: > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0- To have two different implementations of same function. > =C2=A0 =C2=A0- To not be able to rely on uniform behavior. IMO subtle differences are among the worst bugs. It can take a long time to discover what is wrong and you often guess wrong (especially if you are not aware of how difficult it can be). And the subtle difference often shows up in complicated situations. Maybe the cl version should be renamed?