From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6192: 24.0.50; eldoc-mode: unexpected recentering Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 20:49:09 +0200 Message-ID: References: <878w7mjtml.fsf@escher.home> <4BF03E92.40909@gmx.at> <87d3wvzkzs.fsf@escher.home> <4BF106FA.7090502@gmx.at> <874oi6oo6f.fsf@escher.home> <83iq6mbek1.fsf@gnu.org> <83eihabcuo.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1274122627 8977 80.91.229.12 (17 May 2010 18:57:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 18:57:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: stephen.berman@gmx.net, 6192@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 17 20:57:05 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OE5Uu-00042a-Ns for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 May 2010 20:57:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58110 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OE5Uu-0006CF-9C for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 May 2010 14:57:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=49404 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OE5Ul-0006BY-Bj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 May 2010 14:57:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OE5Uf-0005Wn-OW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 May 2010 14:56:55 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:49086) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OE5Uf-0005WX-Mm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 May 2010 14:56:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OE5O6-0006KX-DA; Mon, 17 May 2010 14:50:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 18:50:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6192 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 6192-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6192.127412217624322 (code B ref 6192); Mon, 17 May 2010 18:50:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6192) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 May 2010 18:49:36 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OE5Ng-0006KF-Hp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 May 2010 14:49:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com ([209.85.161.44]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OE5Ne-0006KA-8O for 6192@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 May 2010 14:49:34 -0400 Original-Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so3697038fxm.3 for <6192@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 17 May 2010 11:49:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZS/aKU5vN5XXqZNnA1FJS5L9X7t+ds0pvb7o6EIsQ0I=; b=fcFf0bcTKeHGHiM2Lb+7k2mGisUSaMwC9dgO/Yt7ZeegRr6+YS7VgtZvqcG1VodatP W4J9yzgIMf4VdCRKEPVfiqerU5WtVqq78sMr04A4odHjC+eQn1lbuZpeV2bQHSrP/13y 4ELCvEWo2sebxOOaokY2+rugiv0aFtPtFvnzI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JlAEbBWe+T94bC7w2DnYip1c1uaS096Ksr3E/lNsQjGPu5z8OTiMEpt3Krl55a60PJ 6tChfquBhPA7wPxKLfOahVO7Hv03ukPsl61E2G1WUZBzt0DEnOFzyGlIysby5K0kXFZx 42kN2jxfFSbJP/KVu/sJZ6XXf3Czg+x1pn/3g= Original-Received: by 10.239.166.10 with SMTP id z10mr555141hbd.114.1274122169158; Mon, 17 May 2010 11:49:29 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.239.164.81 with HTTP; Mon, 17 May 2010 11:49:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83eihabcuo.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 14:50:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:36998 Archived-At: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> >> Would it be possible to try 1 line scrolling first, then 2 etc? > > Maybe we could, but that would be slow, I think. =C2=A0Don't forget that > there could be more than one window affected by resizing. =C2=A0And since > redisplay in general works on each window independently, tieing > together redispay of the echo area and the windows above the mode line > would be a complication. =C2=A0Is it really worth that? Maybe not. Here is another suggestion: - We could by default show messages truncated. Then we could have a an idle timer that after maybe 2 second showed the message wrapped. That would stop the annoying jumping caused by messages we still do not have a chance to see in the echo area because they are overwritten by later message (often leaving the lower line blank in the echo area). > Also, note that scrolling only by the minimum amount will cause > annoying jumpy display if some command repeatedly displays messages of > different length in the echo area. The above suggestion would take care of that too. > Recentering once avoids that to a > large degree, because it more often than not will scroll just once. Recentering go away! ;-) > In general, my advice to people who are annoyed by recentering to set > resize-mini-windows to nil (among other things). Maybe that is enough, but it could be combined with my suggestion above. > But if someone wants to work on a redisplay optimization that would > favor such scrolling, feel free.