From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
To: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp>
Cc: 7296@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#7296: display-pixel-height not enough
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 11:20:16 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTimOCrhVOwJxOtiRy028T4DZWm-Pb0jfM2F+wi_z@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <wlr5f5oj69.wl%mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp>
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 3:46 AM, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
<mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp> wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 02:26:44 +0100, Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> said:
>
>>> I'd rather suggest implementing "some of window manager emulations"
>>> (i.e., shortening width/height if specified one exceeds available
>>> one, and possibly maximized, fullwidth, and fullheight for the
>>> fullscreen frame parameter) on W32 and seeing if the proposed
>>> function is still necessary, before introducing incompatibility or
>>> new primitives.
>
>> In what way can the working display area size in pixels be
>> incompatible? And why is using the current total display area size
>> better (and more compatible)?
>
> I mean compatibility with previous versions.
But is not the current version of display-pixel-height/width kind of
bogus since it does not give the actual useable working area?
And haven't we made a decision to try to avoid beeing "bug-back-compatible"?
> It looks unnatural that we can't know the offsets of the available
> display area, if we are to have primitives to get its size.
Yes, we can add functions for that too. There is a lot of small
details to consider here actually, but I think doing the change I
suggested (or rather Eli) is the best first step.
> Also we
> need to consider multiple-monitor environment.
Yes. (I told about the function to use for w32 for that.)
> Anyway, no matter how you try to specify position/size in detail at
> the Lisp level, additional constraints are forced by the window
> manager on X11 and the Cocoa framework on Mac OS X. And such
> additional constraints actually solve the problem in your motivating
> example in the first place. It looks more natural to implement such
> constraints in the remaining environment, i.e., W32.
I see. Yes, maybe. I will have a look at it. (But I would still
suggest changing display-pixel-height/width.)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-01 10:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-28 10:11 bug#7296: display-pixel-height not enough Lennart Borgman
2010-10-28 18:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-10-28 20:39 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-29 7:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-10-29 8:03 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-29 10:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-10-29 8:42 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-29 10:13 ` Jan Djärv
2010-10-29 10:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-10-29 12:28 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-29 13:15 ` Jan D.
2010-10-29 13:38 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-29 14:51 ` Drew Adams
2010-10-29 16:53 ` Jan Djärv
2010-10-29 17:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-10-29 19:27 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-29 19:59 ` Jan D.
2010-10-29 16:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-10-29 19:57 ` Jan D.
2010-10-29 20:05 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-30 7:28 ` Jan Djärv
2010-10-30 9:25 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-30 10:45 ` Jan Djärv
2010-10-30 14:05 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-30 15:06 ` Drew Adams
2010-10-30 15:14 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-30 17:27 ` Jan Djärv
2010-10-30 17:41 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-30 18:30 ` Jan Djärv
2010-10-30 18:59 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-31 10:51 ` Jan Djärv
2010-10-31 12:46 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-11-01 11:37 ` Jan Djärv
2010-11-01 12:00 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-11-01 19:38 ` Jan Djärv
2010-11-01 20:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-11-01 20:35 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-11-01 21:11 ` Jan Djärv
2010-11-01 21:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-11-02 1:09 ` Jason Rumney
2010-11-02 4:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-11-02 13:25 ` Jan D.
2010-11-02 14:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-11-02 16:10 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-11-02 17:48 ` Drew Adams
2010-11-02 17:54 ` Jan Djärv
2010-10-31 3:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-10-31 4:13 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-10-31 10:46 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-11-01 0:10 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-11-01 0:24 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-11-01 0:56 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-11-01 1:26 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-11-01 2:46 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-11-01 10:20 ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2010-11-01 11:40 ` Jan Djärv
2010-11-01 12:04 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-11-01 19:40 ` Jan Djärv
2010-11-02 3:45 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-11-01 7:44 ` Jason Rumney
2010-11-01 10:12 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-11-01 15:09 ` Drew Adams
2010-11-01 18:08 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-11-02 14:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-11-02 15:24 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-11-02 17:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-10-31 10:53 ` Jan Djärv
2010-11-02 18:24 ` Drew Adams
2015-01-03 18:46 ` martin rudalics
2015-02-13 18:29 ` martin rudalics
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