From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6468: A couple of problem related to frame raising (partly w32) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:41:29 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1277290760 29225 80.91.229.12 (23 Jun 2010 10:59:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:59:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 6468@debbugs.gnu.org To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 23 12:59:17 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ORNfp-0004o1-3G for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:59:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33285 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ORNfo-0006RB-Jn for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 06:59:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=45710 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ORNfc-0006PG-GG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 06:59:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ORNfa-0000ek-HW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 06:59:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:58608) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ORNfa-0000eb-Fr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 06:59:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ORNP7-00084V-QX; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 06:42:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:42:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6468 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 6468-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6468.127728971731021 (code B ref 6468); Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:42:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6468) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jun 2010 10:41:57 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ORNP3-00084I-04 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 06:41:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-gw0-f44.google.com ([74.125.83.44]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ORNP1-00084D-KE for 6468@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 06:41:55 -0400 Original-Received: by gwj16 with SMTP id 16so3479596gwj.3 for <6468@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 03:41:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=dLu+Ezv6tuHN/ulvn8Co3sC7B1Odz89AeYl56o4Qj9A=; b=il4Vayg5ziJA7lnBjRmEEYY5Yuk+Dx3pMFyyMrsiYhS1LN1tIRVMabh9wVT1YAMXOU zb3WuHZSqn8DIszQoHYcPxafQ4hzgIrC9ExrjJwQ9/PVWcGg+/KOMC5s1cPE5APE00hh m5/h9d/NzMkMIyI0IOFZWPJBwhWoHXzIiv9dU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=C2g26oXq9fTnmo8r6g871ybVXQDJSND+w7DKCQCe49ESR+nmjWE4XM71OIrj2sp2bs smhq6J6m6h6pStVnPTOsXjPYWD3+Thoe9zBXv5w7cVEUKId7z80d88+luGcSYrcEk+Rm YJKjiFCw3hwKJOZERaJRlDa6hSFSCVEqXA7uc= Original-Received: by 10.101.7.29 with SMTP id k29mr6395509ani.16.1277289710164; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 03:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.100.154.15 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 03:41:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 06:42:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:37963 Archived-At: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Juanma Barranquero wrote: > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:17, Lennart Borgman > wrote: > >> Isn't it more important to understand the logic before trying to >> change anything? > > Isn't necessary to learn the language before trying to understand the logic? I don't think that it is necessary. It is just easier, but not necessary.