From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6241: Please make buffer-offer-save permanent local Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 03:35:56 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1274925456 25160 80.91.229.12 (27 May 2010 01:57:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 01:57:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juanma Barranquero , 6241@debbugs.gnu.org To: MON KEY Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 27 03:57:34 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OHSLm-00027Z-1G for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 May 2010 03:57:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59066 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OHSLk-0002GU-Pz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 May 2010 21:57:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=47678 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OHSLc-00026h-Ap for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 May 2010 21:57:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OHSLb-0000s4-2P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 May 2010 21:57:24 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46694) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OHSLb-0000rv-15 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 May 2010 21:57:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OHS1u-00057T-3I; Wed, 26 May 2010 21:37:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 01:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6241 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 6241-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6241.127492418319671 (code B ref 6241); Thu, 27 May 2010 01:37:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6241) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 May 2010 01:36:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OHS1G-00057E-8O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 May 2010 21:36:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-gw0-f44.google.com ([74.125.83.44]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OHS1E-000579-A7 for 6241@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 May 2010 21:36:20 -0400 Original-Received: by gwj15 with SMTP id 15so2603255gwj.3 for <6241@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 26 May 2010 18:36:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GoLXx18uY36J+JH3XRB1LNJuDm2c9MMqDRwkhsIJU0E=; b=LAzY2QkVk/TXPw8MJdq22bk0XbqISBGJ8AVKinUKDhIVSrwtCW8gUNjx9lSgt3qI5y 2KxFj98SkQeTuNh1RpjPoiJMbogjxHRcK1nzKak9pOzhsBAfXpEv1h7RPJu/RypA2M8a 2Ae6UaVR/NYLjovP6ouTOOJuabgsFr9PeiYU8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rEoX1yK14PoQTdl0WLWaxAoOp7Vmk8PW2xJNrNc9RRdfjeIbSm3K2JDE7SG3zmQSFc RgvmaCeVariI7Hz4Yypm6kd01cj4yj1NrkSLf0NU8FrypkXMs313uwCdfh1ggswvvROW 5JHSHHIwfHTMyRgLkEkIsdxjd+De4Q+I9yaRg= Original-Received: by 10.101.130.30 with SMTP id h30mr12434514ann.7.1274924176209; Wed, 26 May 2010 18:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.100.177.20 with HTTP; Wed, 26 May 2010 18:35:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 21:37:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:37316 Archived-At: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 3:28 AM, MON KEY wrote: >> importantly, I'm not sure how it'd affect existing code. =C2=A0Could som= eone >> investigate how safe would be such a change, and could someone argue for >> (and/or against) it? > > I don't have a definitive use case where this is clearly NTRT but in > general I find these types of `globals' invasive and I appreciate the > luxury of being able to nuke them when and as I see fit. It seems like you are misunderstanding what (put 'buffer-offer-save 'permanent-local t) means. There is no problem still killing the local variable. You can do that with (kill-local-variable 'buffer-offer-save) just as before. The only difference is that it is not killed when you change major mode in the buffer. > Let > third-parties put the variable as needed if that is what they/their code > requires.... esp. as they may have no idea whatsoever what _I_ will be > doing with _my_ buffers. From a user perspective it is often a burden > for me to undo this type overreaching. What burden do you see here?