From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6756: 23.2; `describe-function' describing functions that aren't Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:05:14 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1280578129 787 80.91.229.12 (31 Jul 2010 12:08:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:08:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 6756-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: MON KEY Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 31 14:08:45 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OfArS-0003V6-81 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:08:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48097 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OfArI-0002wI-RH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:08:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=34402 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OfAr8-0002uX-Bg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:08:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OfAr4-0000FH-2L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:07:55 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46849) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OfAr4-0000F8-0R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:07:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OfApG-0007qZ-9m for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:06:02 -0400 Resent-From: Juanma Barranquero Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:06:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: cc-closed 6756 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Mail-Followup-To: 6756@debbugs.gnu.org, lekktu@gmail.com Original-Received: via spool by 6756-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D6756.128057792130152 (code D ref 6756); Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:06:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6756-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jul 2010 12:05:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OfAoZ-0007qH-Sh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:05:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-iw0-f172.google.com ([209.85.214.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OfAoY-0007qC-6a for 6756-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:05:18 -0400 Original-Received: by iwn38 with SMTP id 38so2064653iwn.3 for <6756-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 05:05:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=X5E90917h8ssqaJ4VeWgGndBc85eQkDe8NgAEsCx7kE=; b=tJ6iEEwgjr/RLjvfsdjBk+qCD0u53Y8W+eucE59q5hHY9cCvkZh31tuCykLZVWxfap DzbpRKRWoPmGk0zlnAvO+LU7YBMJaInzjZhS0XJ3C9u3cZd25XA09tTh+J1uGbLZFN3Z AbLCFOCt2wI2kcnAfZl6/E68hwDKwkN8y/ZQQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JX0oSMxS9rqURn9BFrH36Dp/JtGOrmJufsO0HXfwLUNzlFAYtFU4LWOzKkFSt/gj2L s4voHuAnvvDTsDPsrfGemz8vsteDkeIL7hegOOqoxvAtPaulDx+oVz87W5uJdiRgTXIj yPqQ5/MtUWa8QOxL/GmaJD7u2ar/tOX02FRo8= Original-Received: by 10.231.154.73 with SMTP id n9mr3768918ibw.10.1280577935877; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 05:05:35 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.231.162.4 with HTTP; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 05:05:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:06:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:39094 Archived-At: On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 04:50, MON KEY wrote: > It would be working as expected assuming I could ascertain _what_ to > expect. I agree that completion is complex and perhaps underdocumented. > FWIW I increasingly find it unreasonable that *Help* defaults to > _just_ pointing the user to `customize'. I haven't noticed that. I share your opinion on Customize, though. > It isn't all that helpful that *Help* seems to increasingly > (implicitly) suggest dropping into *Info* or custom to get help. I think suggesting to read Info is reasonable. It does not make much sense to duplicate in docstrings all the information already available on the Info pages. I'm closing this bug, as it is no longer about describe-function failing. Feel free to file bugs about documentation shortcomings, etc. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Juanma