From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8083: cua global mark does much more than it announces Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 01:12:00 +0100 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1298162214 24233 80.91.229.12 (20 Feb 2011 00:36:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 00:36:54 +0000 (UTC) To: 8083@debbugs.gnu.org, storm@cua.dk Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 20 01:36:50 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PqxI7-00085f-KG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 01:36:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44475 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PqxI6-0002Hg-T4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:36:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=33159 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PqxI1-0002Hb-8N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:36:42 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PqxI0-0008UT-25 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:36:41 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:50991) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PqxHz-0008UO-Uw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:36:40 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pqwv8-0004BZ-02; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:13:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 00:13:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 8083 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: Emacs Bugs , "Kim F. 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When the global marker is set, CUA cut and copy commands will automatically insert the deleted or copied text before the global marker, even when the global marker is in another buffer. If the global marker isn't set, set the global marker at point in the current buffer. Otherwise jump to the global marker position and cancel it. With prefix argument, don't jump to global mark when cancelling it." However when cua global mark is set quite a few other things also happens. For example self-insert-command is remapped so that the character you type is inserted at cua global mark. I think also that this desing is not good . It is surprising to an uninformed user and it interferes very badly with viper for example. Kim, could we please remove this? Or do you have another suggestion?