From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#5347: 23.1; M-x man: misreports absent man(1) as absent manpage. Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 21:34:51 -0800 Message-ID: References: <4b48732e.e701be0a.4cf2.3e5c@mx.google.com><83skaf8jgv.fsf@gnu.org> <20100110030538.GB2083@Clio><83pr5i8v07.fsf@gnu.org> <20100110043036.GA3424@Clio><83ocl197gt.fsf@gnu.org> <20100110235929.GA1956@Clio> <877hrpfmdt.fsf@mail.jurta.org> Reply-To: Drew Adams , 5347@debbugs.gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1263188992 11363 80.91.229.12 (11 Jan 2010 05:49:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 05:49:52 +0000 (UTC) To: "'Juri Linkov'" , <5347@debbugs.gnu.org>, "'Trent W. Buck'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 11 06:49:44 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NUD9r-00075F-Ub for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 06:49:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56823 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NUD9s-0000he-NU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:49:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NUD9L-0000PZ-2H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:49:11 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NUD9F-0000Ni-6t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:49:09 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35881 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NUD9F-0000Nb-1H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:49:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:53066) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NUD9E-0001gV-Ll for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:49:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NUCwc-0006np-1B; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:36:02 -0500 X-Loop: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Followup-To: "Drew Adams" , 5347@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 05:36:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 5347 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 5347-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5347.126318810426135 (code B ref 5347); Mon, 11 Jan 2010 05:36:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 5347) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jan 2010 05:35:04 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NUCvg-0006nU-65 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:35:04 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet11.oracle.com ([141.146.126.233]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NUCvf-0006n9-7K for 5347@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:35:03 -0500 Original-Received: from rcsinet13.oracle.com (rcsinet13.oracle.com [148.87.113.125]) by acsinet11.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id o0B5YtpT001669 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 11 Jan 2010 05:34:57 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by rcsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o0B587as019082; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 05:34:54 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt005.oracle.com by acsmt355.oracle.com with ESMTP id 1310317571263188079; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 21:34:39 -0800 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/24.5.185.59) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 21:34:39 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <877hrpfmdt.fsf@mail.jurta.org> Thread-Index: AcqSZIgGKdTJFwdbQ467vNrmwUHNDwAGybng X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Source-IP: acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090204.4B4AB87F.010E:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:36:02 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:34195 Archived-At: > >> Maybe it would be good enough to change > >> > >> (error "Can't find the %s manpage" args) > >> into > >> (error "Can't find the %s manpage or no man(1)" args) > > > > Yup, that'd be fine. > > No, please don't change this. A new error message is confusing. > It's not clear what "no man(1)" does mean. The current > message is good > for normal cases when the man executable and its filters are present > on the system. Please either try to detect the fact that the man > executable is missing and display a separate error message, or leave > the current message unchanged. FWIW, I agree with Juri. That is not the right fix (if a fix is needed) - that message is less clear than the original one.