From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4157: =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_bug=234157=3A_23=2E1=2E50=3B_fault?= =?iso-8859-1?q?y_character_characterisation_for_=E4?= Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:50:33 +0200 Message-ID: References: <57B19222-57FF-40C8-8C94-8D19E1281D14@Freenet.DE> <14A765B4-9EAF-46AC-BEBC-6B0A664BA03A@Freenet.DE> <56EC0D72-D541-470F-9FAB-2F766BD45601@Freenet.DE> Reply-To: Peter Dyballa , 4157@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1251364038 4678 80.91.229.12 (27 Aug 2009 09:07:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:07:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 4157@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 27 11:07:10 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Mgawm-00047Y-OL for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:07:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37970 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mgawm-0007ux-31 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 05:07:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mgawg-0007uM-IW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 05:07:02 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mgawb-0007sv-6a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 05:07:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34151 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mgawb-0007ss-1g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 05:06:57 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:58932) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mgawa-0007Vi-Bh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 05:06:56 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n7R96rme031687; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:06:54 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7R904SB029797; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:00:04 -0700 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:00:04 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Peter Dyballa Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:00:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 4157 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 4157-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B4157.125136304228538 (code B ref 4157); Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:00:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at 4157) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 27 Aug 2009 08:50:42 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from mout2.freenet.de (mout2.freenet.de [195.4.92.92]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n7R8oelO028535 for <4157@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 01:50:42 -0700 Original-Received: from [195.4.92.24] (helo=14.mx.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #92) id 1Mgago-0000mb-C6; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:50:38 +0200 Original-Received: from p5b23f540.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.35.245.64]:55399 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by 14.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 587) (Exim 4.69 #94) id 1Mgago-0000DN-2U; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:50:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-purgate-ID: 149285::1251363038-00000AC2-66EC9C40/0-0/0-0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 05:07:01 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:30608 Archived-At: Am 27.08.2009 um 08:52 schrieb Kenichi Handa: > I have no idea why it doesn't work in your environment. > >> And ucs-normalize is auto-loaded! > > When is it loaded? > Actually never! There are just precautions taken. When I deliberately =20= set file-name-coding-system to utf-8-hfs in my init file, GNU Emacs =20 stopped to initialise with an error message about an undefined =20 encoding. So ucs-normalize obviously was not loaded. I added a =20 (require 'ucs-normalize) =96 and it works! It works exceptionally well: =20= i-search for =E4 or =E6 or =F8 in file names works. That's really good work! What I wonder is why so many different font encodings are used when =20 characters are described. Wouldn't it make sense to use an iso10646-1 =20= encoding in an UTF-8 environment for characters from 8-bit ISO =20 encodings? Wouldn't it free resources when less fonts are used? Or is =20= it my fault that I include definitions for ISO encodings in my font set? -- Greetings Pete Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man. There has =20 never been a really good one, and even those that are most tolerable =20 are arbitrary, cruel, grasping and unintelligent. =96 H. L. Mencken