From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rudi Schlatte Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: bug#2145: 23.0.90; S-SPC should scroll up in view-only buffers Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:19:56 +0800 Message-ID: Reply-To: Rudi Schlatte , 2145@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233539025 31331 80.91.229.12 (2 Feb 2009 01:43:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 01:43:45 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 02 02:44:59 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LTnru-0000Tl-Ms for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 02:44:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60772 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LTnqc-0007q3-30 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:43:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LTnqZ-0007pn-54 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:43:35 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LTnqX-0007pT-KS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:43:34 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44737 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LTnqX-0007pQ-DZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:43:33 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:39920) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LTnqX-0000VC-2B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:43:33 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n121hV1i028283; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:43:31 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n121P4xi023678; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:25:04 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Rudi Schlatte Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 01:25:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 2145 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.123353762423512 (code B ref -1); Mon, 02 Feb 2009 01:25:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 2 Feb 2009 01:20:24 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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Rationale: Most other programs that display more than a screenful of information (Firefox, various mail clients, the evince pdf viewer, ...) use SPC to scroll down and S-SPC (Shift-Space) to scroll up. Emacs uses SPC (and S-SPC) to scroll down and to scroll up. Additionally, in some programs, Backspace is bound to some deleting action (in my email reader, it moves the current message to Trash). Paging up and down through stuff thus requires me to be careful about which program I'm in; I've accidentally deleted emails after reading too much stuff in emacs. Workarounds: Putting the appropriate define-key forms, e.g. (define-key view-mode-map (kbd "S-SPC") 'View-scroll-page-backward) (define-key Info-mode-map (kbd "S-SPC") 'Info-scroll-down) in the user's init file.