From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4472: 23.1; Emacs manual not too helpful about binding keys Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:27:44 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87zl8ronld.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Reply-To: Drew Adams , 4472@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1253317648 14919 80.91.229.12 (18 Sep 2009 23:47:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:47:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 4472@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: "'Chong Yidong'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 19 01:47:21 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MonAd-00069W-6k for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 01:47:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37783 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MonAc-0002Ej-F8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:47:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MonAW-0002E8-Lg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:47:12 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MonAS-0002DX-4W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:47:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42106 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MonAR-0002DQ-Rb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:47:07 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:54616) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MonAR-0004jo-7Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:47:07 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n8INl2u0029404; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:47:03 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n8INZ5re027407; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:35:05 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:35:05 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:35:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 4472 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 4472-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B4472.125331646726518 (code B ref 4472); Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:35:05 +0000 Original-Received: (at 4472) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 18 Sep 2009 23:27:47 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from acsinet11.oracle.com (acsinet11.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n8INRjBa026513 for <4472@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:27:46 -0700 Original-Received: from rgminet13.oracle.com (rcsinet13.oracle.com [148.87.113.125]) by acsinet11.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n8INSoZQ006286 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:28:51 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt012.oracle.com (abhmt012.oracle.com [141.146.116.21]) by rgminet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n8INS0X6013590; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:28:01 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/24.5.190.74) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:27:35 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87zl8ronld.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Thread-Index: Aco4tXvBdSgvGUOjSb+iK75+LMGbEgAATPIg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Source-IP: abhmt012.oracle.com [141.146.116.21] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090208.4AB41768.0102:SCFSTAT5015188,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:47:12 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:31260 Archived-At: > > I couldn't even find the form (kbd...) in the manual, and I thought > > that was what we are now recommending in general (no?). > > From the manual: > ... My bad about that. Much of what I wrote in the bug report is still true, but the part about kbd is no longer true (good). I copied the text I has sent as a mail to emacs-devel in August of 2008 (to which I got no reply), and at that time what I said about kbd etc. was indeed true (for CVS Emacs). Please read the whole bug report, and filter out whatever has been fixed since then.