From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6280: 24.0.50; (elisp) Dedicated Windows Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:02:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9e569465-3107-4d63-be43-0a8b4c7bbb56@default> References: <4BFEAAE6.60301@gmx.at> <4BFF8A9C.8060700@gmx.at> <804C0F1267E447EE983B0C90E01F1573@us.oracle.com> <4BFFDCD5.90706@gmx.at> <87txc7hcxw.fsf@building.gnus.org> <52F88A85.7040408@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1392051797 31021 80.91.229.3 (10 Feb 2014 17:03:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:03:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 6280@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier , martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 10 18:03:24 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WCuGR-0000Gd-Sw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:03:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56841 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCuGR-00027b-FM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 12:03:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55549) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCuGF-00026u-QO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 12:03:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCuG6-0003TD-Ud for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 12:03:11 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:33669) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCuG6-0003T6-Rm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 12:03:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCuG6-0002Yq-67 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 12:03:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6280 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 6280-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6280.13920517709827 (code B ref 6280); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:03:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6280) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 17:02:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41564 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCuFu-0002YQ-57 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 12:02:50 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:43972) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCuFr-0002YB-BT for 6280@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 12:02:48 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s1AH2dhR006895 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:02:40 GMT Original-Received: from userz7022.oracle.com (userz7022.oracle.com [156.151.31.86]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1AH2cSf018213 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:02:39 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0015.oracle.com (abhmp0015.oracle.com [141.146.116.21]) by userz7022.oracle.com (8.14.5+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1AH2cgH024417; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:02:38 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:85277 Archived-At: > In the above text, "dedicated frame" is not a special concept, it's > just talking a way to say it's a frame which the user has created > for a particular purpose. In that case, it should use different phrasing, to avoid confusion with dedicated windows. Say, e.g., "a frame which the user has created for a particular purpose". Of course, with such clearer phrasing it becomes clear that this doesn't mean anything at all. Not unless you say what you have in mind by "for a particular purpose". What frame creation is not for a particular purpose? If this is to be helpful/meaningful, it needs to actually say something. Perhaps an example of what you have in mind would help - an example of a frame "created for a particular purpose". If all you mean is a standalone minibuffer frame, then say that. Don't use the word "dedicated" at all. If you think that is not clear enough, then say a frame whose `minibuffer' parameter has value `only'.