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The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---1463811583-1261530357-1625768580=:3464 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Thu, 8 Jul 2021, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Robert Pluim >> >> We could avoid the >> whole argument by deleting the whole sentence, since its information >> content is low anyway. > > Deleting that would be a step back, since it was added for a reason, > see the discussions about that. Specifically, we don't want to repeat > the whole long description of how and where does Emacs find the init > file every time we mention the init file. Perhaos, elsewhere in the documentation, instead of saying “~/.emacs”, we could say “the initialization file”, accompanied by a link to this description of where it can be found. I couldn’t find the prior discussion of this, so apologies if this idea was already dismissed. -- Peter Oliver ---1463811583-1261530357-1625768580=:3464--