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Thu, 14 Nov 2024 11:30:01 -0500 (EST) Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:295343 Archived-At: On 14/11/2024 17:51, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> I'm personally skeptical that loading a package (or invoking a mode) >> indicates a strong user preference, but ok, let's call it that. > Indeed, I think loading a package does not show a strong user > preference. As we've seen, it can happen "by accident" in various > circumstances that are only loosely related to using the code in > that file. > > Invoking a mode is a significantly stronger signal. Stronger yes, but is it strong? One might as well be testing the mode, without intention to set it up as the default. And how much does it help anyway? The result can only last until the end of the current session, after which the user would need to use one of the other approaches. Anyway, this is not a new argument.