From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Van Ly Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#53188: 28.0.90; if tooltip-mode is off, modeline context menu blocks minibuffer at column 36 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 13:24:43 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Super Dimensional Fortress Message-ID: <9a641db5-38aa-c751-292e-e3fe3ee09cd0@SDF.ORG> References: <7ea6e621-6d7b-7b2-2cd6-25da43551ed@SDF.ORG> <83mtk26vm9.fsf@gnu.org> <16f899bf-98e3-662-c5b7-21f120a86a0@SDF.ORG> <83y23k2bxd.fsf@gnu.org> <19ac9b5c-a097-82da-80c-361b66415a16@SDF.ORG> <83o84f3j65.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38224"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 53188@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 13 14:26:18 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n807N-0009jm-WB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 14:26:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44804 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n807M-0006Le-AT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 08:26:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53506) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n806N-0006Jd-QB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 08:25:17 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:39357) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n806A-0003S3-KM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 08:25:14 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n806A-00071d-HY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 08:25:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Van Ly Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 13:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 53188 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: confirmed Original-Received: via spool by 53188-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B53188.164208029026975 (code B ref 53188); Thu, 13 Jan 2022 13:25:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 53188) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jan 2022 13:24:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60493 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n805x-00070z-Ke for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 08:24:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:60614) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n805v-00070q-1D for 53188@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 08:24:48 -0500 Original-Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:van.ly@faeroes.freeshell.org [205.166.94.9]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 20DDOj8J005192 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Thu, 13 Jan 2022 13:24:45 GMT Original-Received: from localhost (van.ly@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id 20DDOhOo022670; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 13:24:43 GMT In-Reply-To: <83o84f3j65.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:224105 Archived-At: On Thu, 13 Jan 2022, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> The text associated with the tooltip is helpful early on but becomes >> an annoying visual nag once you are familiar with what that thing >> does. I had tooltip-mode set nil. I didn't expect the echo area to >> contain the tooltip. There was text in the echo area and I couldn't >> get the modeline context menu out of the way to read it. When I >> restarted in 'emacs -Q' to report the bug I discovered the echo area >> partially contained the tooltip text because tooltip-mode is default >> on. My point is if there is text I want, I want to be able to read >> all of it. If I've set tooltip-mode nil then I expect tooltip text >> masked out from every output channel. > > So you are actually asking for a new feature, whereby the tooltips are > not shown at all, is that right? > No. I think, I'm asking for the echo area to be readable when text is there. The context menu from the modeline does not get in the way. When I've disabled the text associated with the tooltip by setting tooltip-mode to nil, I assumed I wouldn't have reached this point where I have to ask for the tooltip text not to show. -- vl