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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Michael Albinus'" <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
Cc: 10319@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#10319: 24.0.92; doc string of `file-remote-p'
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 13:29:31 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9F8218E3FA3645D9B59B2F8EEE480A8C@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877h1sdzv0.fsf@gmx.de>

> The second sentence means that a relative filename like 
> "/sudo::../../.." does not make sense, because it cannot
> expand out of the "/sudo::" jail.

So what are we trying to tell _users_ here?
Is this what we are really trying to say?

 FILE must be an absolute file name.

If so, what should we say happens if you nevertheless pass a relative file name?
Return value is unspecified (could be nil or non-nil)?  An error is raised?
What should we tell users is the behavior?

> > Something like this (but see my question about relative 
> > file names not working):
> >
> >  Test whether FILE specifies a location on a remote system.
> >  A file is considered remote if accessing it is likely to
> >  be slower or less reliable than accessing local files.
> >
> >  `file-remote-p' never opens a new remote connection.  It can
> >  only reuse a connection that is already open. Relative file
> >  names do not work across remote connections (????).
> >
> >  Return nil or a string identifying the remote connection
> >  (ideally a prefix of FILE).  For example, the remote
> >  identification for filename "/user@host:/foo" could be
> >  "/user@host:".  
> >
> >  IDENTIFICATION specifies which part of the identification to
> >  return.  IDENTIFICATION can be the symbol `method',
> >  `user', `host', or `localname'.  Any other value is handled
> >  like nil and means to return the complete identification.
> >  The string returned for IDENTIFICATION `localname' can differ
> >  depending on whether there is an existing connection."
> >
> >  If CONNECTED is non-nil, return an identification only
> >  if FILE is located on a remote system and a connection is
> >  established to that remote system.
> 
> Sounds OK to me. From my point of view you could submit the 
> changed docstring.
>
> > We should also perhaps say what "the complete 
> > identification" is/means.  IOW, when IDENTIFICATION is nil,
> > what can we say about the return value?
> 
> In that case, the returned string could make a local file 
> name remote. We could always offer to apply
>    (concat (file-remote-p "whatever") "local-file-name")
> given that `concat' accepts nil as argument.

Sorry, I just don't understand your reply to my question (what is the complete
identification - what is returned if IDENTIFICATION is nil).  Could you rephrase
or elaborate?

Thx - Drew






  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-19 21:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-18  2:17 bug#10319: 24.0.92; doc string of `file-remote-p' Drew Adams
2011-12-18  8:33 ` Michael Albinus
2011-12-18 15:02   ` Drew Adams
2011-12-19  8:40     ` Michael Albinus
2011-12-19 16:10       ` Drew Adams
2011-12-19 18:26         ` Michael Albinus
2011-12-19 19:44           ` Drew Adams
2011-12-19 21:18             ` Michael Albinus
2011-12-19 21:29               ` Drew Adams [this message]
2011-12-20  9:15                 ` Michael Albinus
2011-12-20 15:53                   ` Drew Adams
2011-12-20 17:02                     ` Michael Albinus
2011-12-20 17:08                       ` Drew Adams
2011-12-20 17:14                         ` Michael Albinus
2011-12-20 17:33                           ` Drew Adams
2011-12-21 18:34                             ` Michael Albinus

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