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From: Ken Raeburn <raeburn@permabit.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 21473@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#21473: 24.5; very slow tooltip display to sort-of-slow remote display
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 01:38:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9CBD7FEC-C4BC-4FD8-8FE1-9760C2113DAC@permabit.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83a8ry1kyt.fsf@gnu.org>


> On Oct 4, 2015, at 15:40, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> 
>> From: Ken Raeburn <raeburn@permabit.com>
>> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2015 14:02:18 -0400
>> Cc: 21473@debbugs.gnu.org
>> 
>>>>     5 _XReply « XSync « x_check_errors « x_set_mouse_color « x_set_frame_parameters « x_default_parameter « x_create_tip_frame « Fx_show_tip « Ffuncall « exec_byte_code « funcall_lambda « Ffuncall « exec_byte_code « funcall_lambda « Ffuncall « run_hook_with_args « Ffuncall « exec_byte_code « funcall_lambda « Ffuncall « Fapply « Ffuncall « exec_byte_code « funcall_lambda « Ffuncall « call1 « timer_check_2 « timer_check « readable_events « get_input_pending
>>> 
>>> Any idea why we need to call
>>> 
>>> x_default_parameter (f, parms, Qmouse_color, build_string ("black"),
>>> 		       "pointerColor", "Foreground", RES_TYPE_STRING);
>>> 
>>> when creating a tip frame?  Do we want the tip frames to be able to
>>> support mouse highlight or something?  If so, we could make this
>>> conditional on some option, because the absolute majority of tooltips
>>> don't use that.
>> [...]
>> - Make x_set_mouse_color record serial numbers and use a new error handling routine to check them, reducing the number of XSync calls but not getting rid of them entirely.
> 
> You didn't answer my question about the possibility to remove the call
> to x_set_mouse_color (and anything mouse-related) altogether in a tip
> frame.  Is that feasible?  Could you try that and see if it has any
> adverse effects?

Ah, sorry.  Yes, it seems to work okay, as far as I can tell, and cuts out 11 round trips.  With a remote display I’m able to move the mouse into the tooltip window for a few seconds before it goes away, and (at least on my display) it’s showing a basic black arrow pointer. I’m not sure how to get it to stick around past my moving the mouse into the window; the next thing Emacs does seems to be to delete the window.  The frame deletion code protects against calling XFreeCursor on a zero value, so I don’t expect any problems there.

> 
>> - Try to defer garbage collection while running commands like x-create-frame.
> 
> I'd recommend against that, or at most make it optional behavior.
> IME, deferring GC is produces net loss in most situations.  Your
> situation is clearly rare, so skewing the behavior for all the rest of
> the users sounds unwise.

I can imagine that.  Most commands aren’t likely to allocate nearly as much as I’m seeing during normal frame creation.  But that’s a separate issue….

Ken




  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-05  5:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-14  8:13 bug#21473: 24.5; very slow tooltip display to sort-of-slow remote display Ken Raeburn
2015-09-15 14:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-15 22:03   ` Ken Raeburn
2015-09-26  7:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27 10:35   ` Ken Raeburn
2015-09-27 10:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27 13:29       ` Ken Raeburn
2015-09-29 20:15         ` Ken Raeburn
2015-09-30  7:23         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-01 10:01           ` Ken Raeburn
2015-10-01 16:51             ` Ken Raeburn
2015-10-04  9:45             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-04 18:02               ` Ken Raeburn
2015-10-04 19:40                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-05  5:38                   ` Ken Raeburn [this message]
2015-10-05  6:25                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-06  2:15                       ` Ken Raeburn
2015-10-06  2:44                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-06  9:30                           ` Ken Raeburn
2015-10-06 14:46                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-07  6:09                               ` Ken Raeburn
2015-10-07 15:31                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-08  6:04                                   ` Ken Raeburn
2015-10-08  8:12                                     ` Ken Raeburn
2021-09-19 22:29                                       ` Stefan Kangas
2022-04-24 13:19                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-25  2:09                                       ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-23  8:02                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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