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Contovounesios wrote: > Andreas Röhler writes: > >> On 17.07.19 19:47, Basil L. Contovounesios wrote: >>> Andreas Röhler writes: >>> >>>> Okay, commonly there many ways in Emacs to work around an issue, which is >>>> great. But that doesn't solve it at source. By its semantic newline is unrelated >>>> to filling, from there that behavior is not to expect, idiosyncratic. >>> Unless you or someone else has a concrete proposal for how to fix said >>> idiosyncratic behaviour in a backward-compatible way, I think that ship >>> has sailed. >>> >> Decoupling it should not break anything. When fixed, just setting an >> auto-fill-function will no longer trigger auto-fill in case auto-fill-mode is >> off. > But auto-fill-function is effectively synonymous with auto-fill-mode. Consider that a design flaw. Just setting a var should not trigger a mode. > If the former is nil, the latter is disabled. If the former is non-nil, > the latter is enabled. There is no variable auto-fill-mode, only the > buffer-local variable auto-fill-function. > > Users and modes that do not want to enable auto-fill-mode should not > make auto-fill-function non-nil. > > Modes that want to provide a custom auto-fill function without enabling > auto-fill-mode should set normal-auto-fill-function buffer-locally > instead of auto-fill-function. Thanks for the hint. Will use it as a workaround.