From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Gildea Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#32931: time-stamp-format: offer numeric time zones too Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 12:57:49 -0800 Message-ID: <9939.1573160269@tigger3.sg.gildea.net> References: <87zhvvwatd.fsf@jidanni.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="47767"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: Robert Pluim , 32931@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 07 21:58:14 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iSor6-000CF6-9W for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 21:58:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48054 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iSor5-0001U3-5b for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 15:58:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56903) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iSoqx-0001TX-3W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 15:58:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iSoqw-0007Fw-1B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 15:58:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:35165) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iSoqv-0007Ff-U0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 15:58:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iSoqv-0000bQ-Sv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 15:58:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stephen Gildea Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 20:58:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32931 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 32931-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32931.15731602782307 (code B ref 32931); Thu, 07 Nov 2019 20:58:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 32931) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Nov 2019 20:57:58 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43986 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iSoqs-0000b8-IU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 15:57:58 -0500 Original-Received: from tigger.sg.gildea.net ([99.65.78.170]:43554 helo=tigger3.sg.gildea.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iSoqq-0000av-D9 for 32931@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 15:57:56 -0500 Original-Received: from tigger3.sg.gildea.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by tigger3.sg.gildea.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E10223E0ECA; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 12:57:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Message from eliz@gnu.org of 7 Nov 2019 16:33:58 +0200 <837e4bg3hl.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6; nmh 1.7.1-RC3; GNU Emacs 25.2.2 Content-ID: <9933.1573160269.1@tigger3.sg.gildea.net> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:171111 Archived-At: The time-stamp package has unusual compatibility issues that govern when code changes are appropriate to document. In the source, it is noted that ;;; At all times, all the formats recommended in the doc string ;;; of time-stamp-format will work not only in the current version of ;;; Emacs, but in all versions that have been released within the past ;;; two years. The reason for this promise is that it is common for people to set time-stamp-pattern or time-stamp-format in a local-variables section of a file. Files so annotated may be edited by different people and with different versions of Emacs. So that Emacs behaves consistently, the time-stamp package recommends only formats that behave the same way across all versions likely to be in simultaneous use. In September I updated the documentation for changes implemented previously; that commit included a section in NEWS. I will eventually document the change that sparked this discussion, too, and I'll add it to NEWS at the same time. So while I am aware of my responsibility to document, I am also mindful of my responsibility to not document yet. < Stephen