From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21072: Brave new mark-defun (and a testing tool) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 07:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <99032fe6-1589-4972-8a43-6748007445af@default> References: <87o9ydrzkr.fsf@mbork.pl> <87bmu6icea.fsf@mbork.pl> <87wpctgieu.fsf@mbork.pl> <52e67f43-edcf-09e3-5fd6-6079763fd234@yandex.ru> <87tw7wh9sf.fsf@mbork.pl> <87k28sdka6.fsf@jane> <87efyze00g.fsf@jane> <87bmu2eoji.fsf@jane> <87wpcpw61w.fsf@jane> <83o9xdghmc.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9wkoald.fsf@jane> <87a881ofsu.fsf@jane> <87k272wh8x.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <871st4aal7.fsf@jane> <87tw5l7v26.fsf@jane> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1492524326 27436 195.159.176.226 (18 Apr 2017 14:05:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 14:05:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 21072@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier To: Marcin Borkowski , Noam Postavsky Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 18 16:05:19 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d0Tko-0006sa-W4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 16:05:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42101 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d0Tku-0001Q8-SG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 10:05:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54870) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d0Tkg-0001GP-FJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 10:05:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d0Tkc-0002VT-LG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 10:05:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:56653) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d0Tkc-0002VL-Hy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 10:05:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d0Tkc-0007gF-8D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 10:05:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 14:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21072 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21072-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21072.149252426229470 (code B ref 21072); Tue, 18 Apr 2017 14:05:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21072) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Apr 2017 14:04:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54852 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d0Tjx-0007fE-Pe for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 10:04:22 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:17919) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d0Tjw-0007f1-Jt for 21072@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 10:04:21 -0400 Original-Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id v3IE4EUn015531 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 18 Apr 2017 14:04:14 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v3IE4DL2020411 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 18 Apr 2017 14:04:13 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0012.oracle.com (abhmp0012.oracle.com [141.146.116.18]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v3IE4BYo018646; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 14:04:11 GMT In-Reply-To: <87tw5l7v26.fsf@jane> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6767.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:131729 Archived-At: > > Hmm, no, I wasn't really aware of folding (you mean via > > `outline-hide-sublevels', right?). >=20 > Actually, via Org-mode. Is there anyone who does that > without Org-mode? Out of curiosity: why??? Yes, I do. ;-) And so do you, if you use `C-h n' (`view-emacs-news') and you sometimes hide sublevels there.