From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13334: 24.3.50; enhancement request: `C-0 M-n' reverses order of defaults Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 07:22:24 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Message-ID: <97b12715-80de-40cb-9323-fe56cbc7c1bc@default> References: <87h9ekcbsb.fsf@web.de> <87vb2zz8nf.fsf@web.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1462029824 11585 80.91.229.3 (30 Apr 2016 15:23:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 15:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13334@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 30 17:23:31 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1awWjy-0006x9-LQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:23:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58745 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awWju-0004IQ-JW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 11:23:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57026) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awWjl-00044p-Dr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 11:23:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awWjZ-000463-Dr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 11:23:11 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:45590) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awWjZ-000454-AU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 11:23:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awWjW-0003Z4-0E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 11:23:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 15:23:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13334 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 13334-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13334.146202975513654 (code B ref 13334); Sat, 30 Apr 2016 15:23:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13334) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Apr 2016 15:22:35 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57924 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awWj4-0003YA-No for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 11:22:34 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:25122) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awWj3-0003Xw-9D for 13334@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 11:22:33 -0400 Original-Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u3UFMRJn021768 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 30 Apr 2016 15:22:27 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3UFMQIe030786 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 30 Apr 2016 15:22:26 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0019.oracle.com (abhmp0019.oracle.com [141.146.116.25]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3UFMPdO002140; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 15:22:25 GMT In-Reply-To: <87vb2zz8nf.fsf@web.de> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:117345 Archived-At: > > The only reason what I suggested might be considered slightly better > > is that `C-p' is generally thought of as accessing the input history > > (see the above confusion), not the defaults. > > > > That's the case at the outset, but of course once you've used one of > > `C-n' or `C-p' the other just reverses within the list (inputs or > > defaults) that you started cycling, until you get back to the starting > > point (origin, dividing the two lists). >=20 > (Do you mean M-n, M-p?) Yes, sorry. > Internally it's just one list AFAIK (with the starting point somewhere > in the middle after defaults have been added, so to say). M-n and M-p > move through the complete list without distinguishing in which "part" we > are - history or defaults. So I don't think just going to the end of > the defaults would be confusing. As I say, it would be fine by me. And yes it is one list, and no, there is no distinguishing the parts (perhaps there should be). Still the two parts are different.