From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14233: 24.3; Don't constrain frame size to character multiples Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 07:39:00 -0700 Message-ID: <97FD826D96FF4DAA91192817D475A0B3@us.oracle.com> References: <2r7gjy2gyy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83bo991z00.fsf@gnu.org><517257A0.4080607@gmx.at> <8338ul1rmb.fsf@gnu.org><517275A0.1040702@gmx.at> <83wqrxzbc7.fsf@gnu.org><51729A6A.7090404@gmx.at> <83mwstyxre.fsf@gnu.org><5172D1D6.8030200@gmx.at> <83bo99ys79.fsf@gnu.org><5173B0B2.9070607@gmx.at><51750438.5060106@gmx.at><8C0357F6-5720-42E5-90EB-B83416F0344E@swipnet.se><51762F4D.7070101@gmx.at> <8361zdxll8.fsf@gnu.org><51777DF3.5030206@gmx.at> <83fvyfx3c1.fsf@gnu.org><5178DB50.20404@gmx.at> <834neuvas1.fsf@gnu.org> <517A2FCE.30006@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1366987215 27539 80.91.229.3 (26 Apr 2013 14:40:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:40:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esabof@gmail.com, 14233@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'martin rudalics'" , "'Eli Zaretskii'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 26 16:40:19 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UVjot-0006MZ-OK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:39:05 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt114.oracle.com (abhmt114.oracle.com [141.146.116.66]) by userz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r3QEd4Hp023201; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:39:04 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.138.219) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 07:39:04 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <517A2FCE.30006@gmx.at> Thread-Index: Ac5CUbNnjBiHtdGjQzuZ7mzs4yeEtwANX5bw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:73735 Archived-At: Lots of good background info for those of us who are not up on this stuff - thanks, Martin. Just one remark, from one user and use case. Not sure how relevant it is to what you guys are discussing - if not, please ignore. > We also resize the frame when we change its default font... I have code that relies on this behavior to shrink not only the default font size (of all windows in the frame) but the frame itself. I do this not only to zoom (shrink or enlarge) a frame and its text slightly. I do it also to shrink it a lot - down to a thumbnail/icon size - and later restore it. I would not like to see this behavior change, so that, e.g., Emacs stopped resizing the frame when I change the font size for the frame. We already have the ability to scale text (for a particular buffer, but not a window or all windows in a frame) without the frame shrinking. Both kinds of behavior, buffer zooming and frame zooming, are useful. In fact, each of my zoom commands can do either, and can toggle between the two behaviors: zoom the current buffer or zoom the selected frame. Just wanted to point out this probably not-so-obvious use case that is based on the frame-size-follows-font-size behavior has long enjoyed. If you change something that might jeopardize this, please at least make it optional for the frame and font size to be coupled this way. Thx. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs-en/download/zoom-frm.el http://emacswiki.org/emacs/SetFonts#ChangingFontSize http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs-en/download/thumb-frm.el http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs-en?FisheyeWithThumbs